I agree with everything that Michael said.

I would also add if there is a particular file/s that has really, really
bad formatting (i.e. 8 tabs when only 1 is needed on multiple lines), so as
to make the file truly unreadable, then there might be an opportunity to
fix something like that. But, I would think that is pretty rare. It's a
large code base, so I could be wrong.

Definitely trying to "boil the ocean" is frowned upon though.

-brad w.


On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 9:11 AM Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote:

> please don't reformat the code base :)
>
> there is some room for periodic code cleanups which includes warning
> fixes and general code improvements, but reviews quickly become *very*
> time intensive since it is often not trivial to make sure that this
> isn't causing regressions.
>
> Formatting changes itself entail side effects like being noise while
> using 'git blame' etc.
>
> thanks && best regards,
>
> -mbien
>
>
> On 29.03.23 14:57, Jeremy Cavanagh wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > It's been quite a while since I have interacted with the group. First of
> all may I congratulate everyone on the tremendous effort producing
> repeatedly better versions of NetBeans. Secondly, may I apologise for the
> length of this email.
> >
> > I suspect that everyone has forgotten my last email where I personally
> found the source code hard to read and was going to embark upon an attempt
> to reformat it. Well, that has turned out to be a significant task
> requiring a great deal of manual intervention.
> >
> > Originally, I started with 12.1 but soon gave up when 12.2, 12.3 etc
> rolled on rapidly. So I restarted at version 13. However, not really
> understanding the structure I began with the ide cluster and after a lot of
> fumbling around decided that this wasn't the right place and moved to the
> harness and platform.
> >
> > Like Alice I fell down a rabbit hole into a veritable wonderland of
> confusion and surprises.
> >
> > A simple, so I thought, reformat turned into:
> >
> > - Reformat to improve readability.
> > - Correct inconsistent formatting within files.
> > - Introduce a consistent use of comments:
> >
> > /**
> > Javadoc
> > */
> > /*
> > inline (not end of line) code comments
> > */
> > // Commented out code.
> >
> > - Remove unused imports and use single class imports not * imports.
> > - Update code to be JDK11 compatible - gives cleaner code. Plus this had
> already been made the minimum requirement for compiling and running the IDE.
> > - Tried to make code GREEN by eliminating as many errors as possible
> (warnings are just soft errors).
> > - Eliminate, where possible, all obsolete code and preferably deprecated
> code. That's easier said than done.
> > - Make fields final where possible.
> > - Reduce the use of 'else if', I've never really been a fan but I
> particularly dislike the lack of a proper implementation of it in Java.
> > - Make return values unmodifiable where necessary/possible.
> > - Make full use of the internal formatter to handle formatting and
> reduce, as much as possible, any manual intervention.
> > - Remove unnecessary decoration.
> > - Replace anonymous inner classes with lambda expressions where possible.
> > - Remove 'unused assigned values'.
> > - Change conditional statements from:
> > testing a value against a variable, to:
> > testing a variable against a value.
> >
> > - This includes:
> > -  ==, != and equals.
> > - Parameters (in my language formal parameters) should be read from and
> never written to within the method body. Parameters are input to the method
> while return values and side-effects are the output from the method.
> > - Correct 'inefficient use of string concatenation in logger'.
> > - Constant name does not follow naming conventions.
> >
> > Plus many more...
> >
> > A lot of these where highlighted by the static analyser and therefore
> were not particularly arduous to deal with.
> >
> > However, the whole process (as yet unfinished) has been time consuming,
> I have visited some 5000 Java files and many have required multiple passes
> to deal with all the problems. I estimate that it has taken me
> approximately 8 hours a day, 7 days a week for 12 months.
> >
> > But, I have now reached a point where I have some problems that I cannot
> find a solution for and need your help/guidance.
> >
> > First, a few of the packages (17 of 114) in platform give me the error
> message "cannot find item" and in some cases they are in the same package?
> >
> > Secondly, I cannot compile anything and therefore cannot test anything.
> I get the error message:
> >
> > ant -f /Users/jeremycavanagh/netbeans-jc-cleaned/platform/api.io
> -Djavac.includes=org/netbeans/api/io/Fold.java compile-single
> > init-tasks:
> > /Users/jeremycavanagh/netbeans-jc-cleaned/nbbuild/default.xml:31:
> taskdef class org.netbeans.nbbuild.JNLPUpdateManifestStartup cannot be found
> > using the classloader AntClassLoader[]
> > BUILD FAILED (total time: 0 seconds)
> >
> > I can only assume that my setup is incorrect for dealing with the
> NetBeans source. I am using the source download for NB13 and have not
> changed anything other than Java files.
> >
> > Kindest regards
> >
> > Jeremy
>
>
>
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