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> On Apr 11, 2023, at 10:54 AM, Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> +1 (binding)
> 
> -mbien
> 
>> On 11.04.23 10:16, Neil C Smith wrote:
>> # Proposed policy
>> 
>> * Apache NetBeans 18 will be the last release to support running the
>> platform on JDK 8.
>> 
>> * From Apache NetBeans 19, the minimum JDK required to build and run
>> the IDE or platform will be JDK 11.
>> 
>> * Future releases will take an "LTS-1" strategy for building and
>> running (and CI testing) of the IDE and platform. Three JDKs will be
>> supported at any one time - the current JDK, plus the previous two LTS
>> releases. eg. NetBeans 20 and 21 (Nov 2023 / Feb 2024) will support
>> JDK 11, 17 and 21. NetBeans 22 (May 2024) will support JDK 17, 21 and
>> 22.
>> 
>> ## Background
>> 
>> The Apache NetBeans IDE has officially required JDK 11 to build and
>> run since NetBeans 13 in March 2022. The platform (and unofficially
>> the IDE) have continued to support running on JDK 8 - all modules
>> requiring a higher JDK must currently be optional. Various tests have
>> continued on JDK 8.
>> 
>> This situation is causing issues as workarounds must be found for
>> currently non-optional features that have dependencies or other
>> requirements for running on a higher JDK (eg. Maven indexing / Lucene
>> [1]). It's causing delays, complications and missed testing time in
>> integration of new features (eg. problems merging support for EE 10
>> [2]). Supporting an increasing range of JDKs is causing increasing
>> workload, both for people and CI. Meeting the challenges of deprecated
>> (for removal) features in the JDK is also complicated by the
>> additional JDK requirements.
>> 
>> ## Notes
>> 
>> * Apache NetBeans users will continue to be recommended to use the
>> current or latest LTS JDK to run the IDE.  The IDE will continue to
>> support users developing projects for/with JDK 8, for as long as
>> nb-javac and other dependencies allow.
>> 
>> * This proposal specifically doesn't address when the default bytecode
>> level across the codebase is increased. This can happen when required,
>> but non-optional modules would be free to adopt the minimum JDK as
>> they need to.
>> 
>> * Optional modules may continue to require a runtime JDK higher than
>> the minimum.  Should it become necessary, build time optional modules
>> might be considered - eg. a build on the minimum JDK may exclude
>> modules that will not run on that JDK at runtime.
>> 
>> * Some modules that are of independent use (eg. lookup, utilities,
>> etc.) might be nominated and advertised to continue JDK 8 support for
>> the time being. This is not expected to cover the runtime container as
>> a whole - https://netbeans.apache.org/tutorials/nbm-runtime-container.html
>> 
>> * Once NetBeans 19 is released, the NetBeans 18 release branch could
>> be used to backport and release JDK 8 supporting fixes, subject to any
>> PMC members wanting to manage those releases.
>> 
>> * The term "platform" is used in reference to the whole framework of
>> modules that we release (eg. via Maven), not just the platform
>> cluster.
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/4999
>> [2] https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/4692
>> 
>> 
>> ## Procedure
>> 
>> This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours.  Vote with +1, 0, and -1.
>> 
>> Please mark your vote as binding only if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
>> member to help with voting admin.
>> 
>> Decision will be by majority vote, with at least 3 binding positive votes.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Neil
>> 
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