On 07.01.25 20:57, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
On 1/7/25 10:25, Neil C Smith wrote:
There are two things to consider. Firstly, we could, and actually in
my opinion should, drop all the convenience installers and just
provide the binary zip. Installers that rely on system JDKs are
likely to become more problematic over time, given code signing,
sandboxing, permissions and other factors. I think if people want to
use a JDK of choice they should use the binary zip. That also means
potentially looking to improve the range and availability of community
installers, besides or instead of the ones I'm producing I hasten to
add! That will involve continuing discussions somewhat independent of
the project itself.
I agree on this one. Even if I considered having packages from the
single source of truth as value.
Holding to that simply getting too much burden on maintenance on the
other hand could be restrictive also could be inconvenient for our
users as well.
+1 for concentrating on the netbeans.zip.
Seeing how much work it is, anything that reduces workload for the
release manager gets a +1 by default from me. I think I also never
installed NB outside of release testing and trying to fix NBI - I always
preferred either self contained zips for tools or letting a package
manager take care of it.
We should not release unmaintained software. NBI as operating under
damage control for a while. We removed parts of it as last minute fix
when it didn't build+run anymore on modern JDKs. Knowing the bad shape
of the NBI code, the windows upgrade problems are something which won't
be easy to workaround (even if someone is found who would want to work
on it) - esp since a proper fix would have to repair the config for
existing/broken installations.
best regards,
michael
I would like to drop the Apache NetBeans Provided Snap packages as
well, move that to community. Apache restrictions, while being
reasonable, eventually hurt end-user experience.
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