On 6/22/26 19:59, Michael Bien wrote: > On 6/22/26 19:36, Neil C Smith wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Jun 2026 at 06:21, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Honestly, if it would be possible, i would like to see both OSGI runtime >>> out. >> I'm not sure that would be feasible. Even if we removed all use from >> the IDE, there's the potential for platform users to be relying on it. >> On the other hand, hopefully if we broke the platform it would only >> affect those big companies who aren't contributing to maintenance and >> act as a useful kick up the ... ;-) >> >>> So as of now, I'm supporting the idea of dropping Netbinox. >> +1 Similar to my feeling on CoS, the profiler, and a few other >> things, aspects of the IDE that are not being adequately maintained >> and are causing knock-on maintenance issues should be allowed to >> quietly rest in peace. > +1 I do also support the effort to remove Netbinox and switch to a maintained > implementation (e.g the already existing felix impl) > > > > However: I remember quickly testing Felix after Laszlo removed the equinox > tree: sorry I mean Mylyn tree, not equinox.
-mbien > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/9020#issuecomment-3545330910 > > Ergonomics didn't work and startup was slower, however as you can see it was > just a hack and it might therefore not indicate much. > > There is also some hope that the startup performance regression would be only > visible on very first launch, since cached launches avoid many code paths. > > (we are currently at about 2.5s "on my system" #9308) > > > but its still a +1 since long term maintainability > startup time > > best regards, > > michael > > >> Best wishes, >> >> Neil >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
