Indeed, but _currently_ - from a purely legal pov - the organisers of any such 
event need to ask the current trademark holder of the 'NetBeans' mark.
And this is _currently_ Oracle. If I run a "Porsche days" event then I of 
course also have to ask the Porsche company for clearance...

You know, as a pure developer one often forgets about all the nasty other stuff 
which is requied to protect your work.
The ASF umbrella is there to guide the single projects on their way to do it 
right. 

I even think it's enough that we raised awareness in the community and PPMC 
that such an ACK step from the trademark holder is legally needed - regardless 
who owns it. At the end it might cost 30 minutes and then all is done.

LieGrue,
strub


> Am 24.03.2017 um 09:09 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacre...@apache.org>:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:06 AM, Mark Struberg
> <strub...@yahoo.de.invalid> wrote:
>> ...For NetBeans it's currently a bit different since the 'NetBeans' 
>> trademark is still
>> owned by Oracle and will probably only be handed over into the custody of the
>> ASF on graduation. So legally the one to ask is currently Oracle, right 
>> Geertjan?...
> 
> While you are technically right, as a mentor I would not approve the
> graduation of NetBeans without the trademark being officially
> transferred, so I think this should happen rather sooner than later.
> 
> I think it's great that the NetBeans PPMC is acting as if the
> trademark is already transferred, as part of learning to operate as
> Apache project. Assuming the current owner of the NetBeans mark
> agrees.
> 
> -Bertrand

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