On 10-04-2017 13:36, Randall Wood wrote: > Is a developer who uses the NetBeans platform in a third party application a > user or developer?
Simply put, a developer is someone who develops (programs, writes documentation, evangelizes etc) netbeans itself, and a user is someone who uses netbeans to do...stuff. Developers need to know about the dev list, the source code, version control systems, the community/PMC and so on - the user needs to know about binaries and other download options as well as user lists, forums and so on. With regards, Daniel. > > Randall Wood > > >> On Apr 10, 2017, at 07:30, Geertjan Wielenga >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Good news. >> >> Gj >> >> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Daniel Gruno <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 10-04-2017 13:22, Emilian Bold wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I believe all the Incubation changes will take a serious toll on our >>> users >>>> if we have to change the mailing lists, drop the forums, move the wiki >>> and >>>> use another main website. >>>> >>>> It seems essential to me to use the netbeans.org domain and preserve as >>>> much of the site / links as possible. >>>> >>>> OpenOffice for example uses the https://www.openoffice.org/ website: we >>>> should follow the same path! >>>> >>>> The way I see it, NetBeans is not just a developer library or tool, it's >>>> also a product. So, we have different categories of users, unlike, say, >>>> Apache Commons IO. We will be hurting ourselves as a product with so many >>>> drastic changes. >>> >>> There are two audiences here, keep that in mind: >>> >>> 1) USERS of NetBeans (who will visit www.netbeans.org) >>> 2) DEVELOPERS of NetBeans (who will visit netbeans.apache.org) >>> >>> The best way to handle this is simply to, yes, have two web sites - one >>> for users of the project and one for the developers. There is nothing >>> standing in the way of that. The only obligatory thing is that the >>> developer site must be at netbeans.apache.org. >>> >>> With regards, >>> Daniel. >>> >>>> >>>> The transition should be smooth: existing and new users should not see >>>> anything new except the good news that we are under Apache now! >>>> >>>> --emi >>>> >>> >>> > >
