Hi, We could provide a way to download the hibernate jar file on first usage (like it was done for JUnit iirc) and like I keep on promising I'll do for WildFly ;) I can ping some of the hibernate team if you need it. Cheers, Emmanuel
---------- Emmanuel Hugonnet http://www.ehsavoie.com http://twitter.com/ehsavoie On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:35 PM, Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > I see, discoverability is a good point. > > The DTDs don't seem a blocker to me. It's doable to create a clean room > implementation for those DTDs based on the existing body of Hibernate > configuration XML files. > > We are also in talks with them to see if they could relicense the DTDs. > > The big problem is the Hibernate JARs which we will not be able to > distribute under Apache. > > So, we might be able to provide some Hibernate "configuration" (via the > DTDs) out of the box but no Hibernate execution. > > > > --emi > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Neil C Smith < > neilcsmith....@googlemail.com > > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 10:38 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > There is an older thread about the Plugin Portal which will be handled > > > outside Apache. > > > > > > You could revive that thread or start another one. > > > > > > > Sorry, I wasn't intending that question to be entirely devoid of the > > context of this thread. I probably agree with Geertjan with moving this > > out into a plugin outside of Apache, but hey I've never used it! :-) In > > general, moving support for third-party libraries into plugins might make > > sense, but I'm also concerned at us adding barriers for end users. > > Therefore ease of discovery of previously built-in features, how the > plugin > > portal works longer term, UI changes to support that, etc. feel relevant > to > > me in making decisions on this sort of thing. > > > > I think approaching Hibernate and asking for clarification / relicensing > of > > the DTDs makes sense anyway, and useful even if this becomes a plugin. > And > > it seems odd to license DTDs in that way. If relicensing is an option, > > then it might be easier/better to look at this again later. > > > > Incidentally, given that this would be running on the JDK anyway, how > > feasible is doing the build of these classes on first run rather than at > > build time? > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Neil > > -- > > Neil C Smith > > Artist & Technologist > > www.neilcsmith.net > > > > Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org > > >
