I agree though it's a question of 'when' not 'if'.

Not sure in terms of timing when would be most strategic.

Gj

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Antonio <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was thinking that this is a great opportunity for branding and/or
> renaming the platform, making emphasis that the platform is IDE agnostic,
> and that it can be used to build any sort of desktop applications.
>
> For instance, we could name the platform as "Apache NetBeans Platform"
> (ANP), or "Apache NetBeans Application Platform" (ANAP), or "Apache
> NetBeans Desktop Application Platform" (ANDAP), or "Apache NetBeans Awesome
> Platform for building Flipping Modular Desktop Applications" (ANAPFMDA), or
> whatever, instead of just "Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha".
>
> The object being to make it clear that you can use the NetBeans Platform
> to build any kind of applications, not just IDEs, and making it clear that
> Apache NetBeans is much more than an IDE.
>
> Choosing a name that is easy to find in search engines would be a plus.
>
> Cheers,
> Antonio
>
> P.S.: IntelliJ started blogging about their platform on June 2017, they
> even have a specific Twitter account:
>
> https://blog.jetbrains.com/platform/2017/06/introducing-jetb
> rains-platform-blog-and-twitter-for-plugin-developers/
>
>
> El 05/11/17 a las 20:22, Geertjan Wielenga escribió:
>
>> Here's the proposal, at the start of this thread:
>>
>> - Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha -- NetBeans Platform only (i.e., only the core
>> modules, possibly without JavaHelp). In this way, we'll have worked
>> through
>> the process for a coherent part of Apache NetBeans and will only have
>> JavaHelp and SwingLayout to deal with in terms of GPL. (I believe SwingX
>> is
>> not applicable to the platform, but the IDE.)
>>
>> - Apache NetBeans 9.0 Beta -- Everything currently in Apache NetBeans Git,
>> i.e., the above and then also including all the other clusters currently
>> there, i.e., Java SE tooling.
>>
>> - Apache NetBeans 9.0 -- All of the above, including NetCAT involvement.
>> This will be the officially tested version of Apache NetBeans.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:20 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> We're talking about an alpha release here, not beta, and not final.
>>>
>>> The html.editor module is not part of the platform, which is part of the
>>> plan for the alpha release.
>>>
>>> There are no failing unit tests for the alpha release:
>>>
>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/
>>> incubator-netbeans-release/
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:17 PM, Matthias Bläsing <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> Am Sonntag, den 05.11.2017, 19:57 +0100 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Jan Lahoda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> FWIW, I've started with a Jenkins job to build release artefacts,
>>>>>> for the
>>>>>> with "9.0 alpha" platform-only release here:
>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/
>>>>>> incubator-netbeans-release/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please note this is still a work-in-progress.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The idea is that the build should do very minimal checks to verify
>>>>>> releaseability. When the build passes/is blue, we could send the
>>>>>> release
>>>>>> vote e-mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  From #57 onwards, the build of NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (i.e.,
>>>>> specifically, and
>>>>> narrowly, the NetBeans Platform) is blue:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-net
>>>>> beans-release/57/
>>>>>
>>>>> That means we can send the release vote e-mail.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disagree. Lars send an important message: The donation from oracle
>>>> came with important files removed. One such example was the
>>>> "html.editor" module, which lost it much of its functionality because
>>>> of removed DTDs. The same is true for XML schema files and such.
>>>>
>>>> So from my POV we need to do the same as for the fixing of licenses: Go
>>>> through every module, run at least the unittests, check why they fail
>>>> and fix them.
>>>>
>>>> Netbeans was always released after NetCat - that should catch it, but I
>>>> would not release at this point.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>>
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>

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