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Von: Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2018 19:01
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove 
JavaFXfromOracle JDK

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 at 16:28 <toni.ep...@eppleton.de> wrote:

> Von: Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. März 2018 16:20
> An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: Apache HTML/Java UI instead of ... Oracle will remove 
> JavaFXfromOracle JDK
>
> > If we have a fully open stack that's as easy to build within the IDE 
> > as
> a Swing application, then we have the basis for something quite useful.
>
> Well, there are some people who are already using it for quite some 
> time in commercial projects, so to them the project is quite useful already.
>

> Ha ha, sorry, no criticism meant at the usefulness of your commercial 
> solution there! :-)  But by "we" I'm really  
> thinking of us here at Apache, and what we can ship support for in the IDE.  
> Not to mention that a commercial 
> license is a massive disadvantage to wider adoption.

Me too, I wasn't talking about the commercial (Dukehoff/DukeScript ) stuff. 
There are companies building applications on top of NetBeans Java/HTML API 
using our (and with our I mean Apache NetBeans😊 ) JavaFX Webview Presenter. 
There are also companies who use it to port their applets with a presenter for 
Jaroslavs bck2brwsr.  ( I probably shouldn't have mentioned that, because 
that's really running in a browser 😉 )

> If we have a solution within the IDE, possibly built around (non-UI) parts of 
> the NetBeans RCP, where people can  
> export an application for each OS, we then have the basis of a Java-based 
> Electron alternative / new NetBeans 
> RCP where we could really drive some of this forward?

Yes, that would be the logical next step. I created a  simple experiment like 
that for JavaFX a while ago and Sven Reimers did a little more work with JavaFX 
& a NB Platform with a new Window System, MenuBar etc.. It's totally possible, 
and this is what I would suggest as the next step. If you want to join, that 
would be great.

Cheers

Toni



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