I don't mind if we delay the release, but I have some remarks regarding these new (to me) criteria
I guess they are probably a copy-paste of the NetCAT criteria we had under Sun / Oracle? The only voted policy we have under Apache is written here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+Policies If we are to follow the NetCAT criteria for our releases, it would be nice to have a discussion about this and a vote. (Maybe we had a discussion but I don't remember. We certainly didn't have a vote). The conditions seem to make sense, overall. Still, I don't like the separation of a 'NetCAT team'; there is no 'development team'. (Secondarily, I also don't like that there's a separated netcat@ mailing list to split the discussion). Also, the NetCAT team seems to be split into sub-groups called 'tribes' and they have a 'leader' which seems to be the only one that 'can label a bug with WAIVER tag'. This seems rather against the Apache way, as you either are a committer or not (or part of the PMC or not). Although 'after reaching consensus within his/her tribe' makes it sound like there's a vote going on, we cannot restrict voting to a subgroup under Apache, afaik; everybody is allowed to vote. The 'Community Acceptance survey' is interesting as it seems to allow non-binding votes to block a release. This sounds interesting, but it's also not the Apache way. Of course, if many non-binding votes point toward something bad, we can decide to take that into account, but it's not automatic. In conclusion: 1. I don't consider these release criteria something binding as they are not voted policy. 2. As such, we should perhaps discuss it and have a vote about it. 3. We should merge netcat@ into dev@ as we are the same community. 4. We should clarify the notion of NetCAT tribe and tribe leader with regard to the Apache terminology --emi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 24 June 2018 7:38 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi all! > > In the heat of our RC-s, please do not forget that we have a release > > criteria to fulfill: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetBeans+9.0+Release+Criteria > > We are pretty got with the BLOCKERS, but we have 21 CRITICAL bugs we > > need to address. > > Some of these issues are related to codedrop 2, some really need to be > > checked if they are really critical. > > I've tried my best so far but we need more involvement here, please! > > The Release Criteria says: > > Only the appropriate NetCAT tribe leader responsible for the affected > > functionality can label a bug with WAIVER tag after reaching consensus > > within his/her tribe. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
