As a NetCat member I've felt a decrease of focus and attention, most probably due to other issues eating up all the available coordinating resources, maybe this is also the reason of the currently low traffic as most of the participants in NetCat 9.0 already moved on to other things, (NetCat as always been a timeboxed effort).
But In my opinion this goes way beyond a simple merge of the 2 lists. During the previous programs there were weekly reports on activities, measurement on traffic on the mailing list and various surveys to check the status of the release train in the allotted time-frame; in this version most of the time frames were blown and, as a consequence, most of the reporting and organization was blown as well, that is my own personal opinion. I'm fairly sure these things might be, and probably should be reorganized to be more in line with apache policies, but I still feel the "Oracle sponsored" organization model has it's benefits, again in my opinion testing and development should be considered separate things as different issues and most importantly a different type of involvement are in play. For myself I do not have the time to be fully involved in development, although I'd love to, but I do have time-frames when I can do testing, the NetCat model "oracle style" was thus very appealing to me, on the contrary having to move everything to development, has a negative feel, again my personal opinion. It might work out in my case if the original time-frames and release based NetCat organization manages to stay, as I might be here for 9.0 but might not be here for 9.1, so assuming I still have the option to register for NetCat if I have time, or opt out if I do not, I would not care that much if communications go thou dev or a dedicated list. the risk I see here is that some part of NetCat has always been composed of people like me, so if moving to dev and reorganizing means that I'll feel compelled to put in more time then I might just opt out completely instead. I do not mean to criticize in any way how thing have been managed, I know changing everything is hard, I just wanted to point out a potentially different point of view, so that it gets considered. Regards, Luca. ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "Antonio" <[email protected]> A: "dev" <[email protected]> Cc: "netcat" <[email protected]> Inviato: Mercoledì, 27 giugno 2018 8:03:47 Oggetto: Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list On 26/06/18 13:47, Emilian Bold wrote: > > I think this further proves it's a bad idea to have multiple mailing lists. > We aren't even capable of having a discussion involving the whole community! Good point! > [...] > But the Apache move is not a small thing and NetCAT should also adapt. If > anything, NetCAT's role might be better than ever, but we have to discuss > about this first. > This is also a good point. NetCAT is probably more important now than ever. Cheers, Antonio --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
