>From what I understood, 'netbeans' is reserved there. There's no hurry.

So 1st let's see if we are capable of producing snap packages on 
builds.apache.org and then, once we have the bits, we can open a relationship 
with Canonical via that site and have a script upload the bits.

--emi

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On 5 July 2018 10:18 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Changing list from private -> dev.
> 
> > So this is what we are talking about? Do you want to "claim" the netbeans 
> > name on behalf of the PPMC on Snapcraft.io?
> > 
> > --emi
> 
> Yes, that's what I was talking about.
> 
> On 07/02/2018 01:04 AM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> 
> > I still don't understand what do you want and why are we talking on private@
> > 
> > So, I see we have https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341 and 
> > the PR has been merged.
> > 
> > The next steps seem to be:
> > 
> > 2.  actually building snap packages on builds.apache.org then
> > 3.  uploading the bits to snapcraft.
> > 
> > So, what exactly do you want? Do you want to upload bits to snapcraft? We 
> > should have some script for that.
> > 
> > If we generate some private key to talk with snapcraft we should save that 
> > private key in the private PPMC repo we have.
> > 
> > Can't we put the script that uploads to snapcraft to builds.apache.org 
> > directly?
> > 
> > It seems there is very little you need to do in person, so I'm not sure 
> > what kind of permission you need.
> > 
> > I assume you might be talking about this 
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-341?focusedCommentId=16367610&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel#comment-16367610
> >  :
> > 
> > > someone with access to commit to the repository needs to login with their 
> > > github credentials [at the build service and add the repo]. Once that is 
> > > done they are able to select to register the name in the store by further 
> > > logging-into a launchpad account and then entering the name. They will 
> > > need to file a claim on the name as it is, which you pointed out, 
> > > reserved; they just need to explain that they’re acting on behalf of the 
> > > project and are therefore the legitimate owner of the name.
> > > 
> > > So this is what we are talking about? Do you want to "claim" the netbeans 
> > > name on behalf of the PPMC on Snapcraft.io?
> > 
> > --emi
> > 
> > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > 
> > On 2 July 2018 9:08 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi [email protected] wrote:
> > 
> > > Thank you Emilian for asking questions! Giving further information never
> > > 
> > > hurts.
> > > 
> > > The netbeans name is a "reserved" name on Snapcraft.io, in order to no
> > > 
> > > one shall create a package with the name "netbeans" coming just out of
> > > 
> > > the blue. (So "netbeans" is a recognized brand by Snapcraft.io)
> > > 
> > > Well, there can be separate channels set up for a package, like stable,
> > > 
> > > beta or edge, but the naming of these channels are completely under the
> > > 
> > > control of the package maintainer.
> > > 
> > > What I think would be good is to have a channel track the release branch
> > > 
> > > and have one to track the master. We could build our binaries in/after
> > > 
> > > our Jenkins job produces a daily/whatrver build and push the result to
> > > 
> > > the appropriate snap channel of the package.
> > > 
> > > I hope I made this more clear.
> > > 
> > > On 07/01/2018 10:45 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I don't really understand your question.
> > > > 
> > > > Do you want to just 'reserve' the nebeans name or do you want to make 
> > > > snap releases on snapscraft.io?
> > > > 
> > > > If you want to make releases, that doesn't seem to be the way to go see 
> > > > http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html We could do snap 
> > > > convenience binaries as part of our normal release, but not separate 
> > > > out-of-band releases.
> > > > 
> > > > If you just want to 'reserve' the name I have no problem you sending an 
> > > > email for that. NetBeans is an Oracle trademark and soon to be an 
> > > > Apache Software Foundation trademark so the Snapcraft guys really can't 
> > > > release anything under the netbeans name unless they want problems.
> > > > 
> > > > Just note that reserving the netbeans name there doesn't mean we'll do 
> > > > releases there.
> > > > 
> > > > --emi
> > > > 
> > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > 
> > > > On 2 July 2018 4:37 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi [email protected] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Well, I have found Apache CouchDB does a Snap distribution, so we 
> > > > > have a
> > > > > 
> > > > > precedence here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I ask my question in reverse, is there anybody against this plan?
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 06/18/2018 09:59 PM, Emilian Bold wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't believe Apache does releases on 3rd party channels.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can we build a convenience binary snap package on our infra and 
> > > > > > just upload it there?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --emi
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On 18 June 2018 11:31 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi [email protected] 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Dear all,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You may know that I'm trying to make Apache NetBeans available as 
> > > > > > > a Snap
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > package. Right now they are keeping "netbeans" in their reserved 
> > > > > > > names.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I do need to arrange that we could claim the name. I do not know 
> > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > such things shall be arranged, so I thought write here. If you 
> > > > > > > entitle
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > me to have discussion with Snapcraft Team (Canonical), then I'd 
> > > > > > > gladly
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > do that. If there are other ideas on this, or if there is someone 
> > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > does not support this movement, please speak up as well!
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thank you in advance,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Laszlo Kishalmi
> 
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