I'd prefer to keep the clusters the way they are, but disable/hide/remove
the blocker related to the dependency on the enterprise cluster until the
enterprise cluster is included.

Personally, I don't believe the enterprise cluster should be included for
Apache NetBeans 10, too much work still to do, too many potential problems,
why can't we wait and do things a bit more slowly and less rushed -- and
then release that as part of Apache NetBeans 10.1/11?

I understand the importance of including Groovy and if we can do it, let's
do it. But not much time -- we need to remove Grails for the moment (and
the amount of work that will be needed to get Grails up to the level it
needs to be is probably also more than expected, let's do that for the next
release). Rome was not built in one day.

Gj

On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 7:15 AM, Sven Reimers <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> plan to make progress:
>
> -split groovy cluster and kit into groovy cluster and grails cluster
> -enable groovy cluster for NetBeans 10
> -if enterprise cluster is enabled - enable grails again for release as well
>
> Everyone ok with this way forward?
>
> -Sven
>
> P.S. Having groovy as part of the release will enable usage of gradle
> plugin...
>
> Edward Kagan <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 27. Sep. 2018, 02:48:
>
> > Sven is right! I am one of those lost souls looking for better Grails
> > support in NetBeans. At the moment NetBeans 8.2 is my primary IDE for
> > Grails, and I can say - it's ugly, but works. There are lots of errors on
> > creating project, but you do it once, and so it's not a fun-killer at
> all.
> > Editing controllers - OK, services - OK, taglibs - OK, settings (YML
> files)
> > - OK, (JavaScript, HTML, CSS) - OK. Most bugs happen on switching to
> > something by shortcuts or Ctrtl+Left Mouse, and I hope it's bug of old
> > Groovy support, commonly it's semi-infinite search - curable. And bad
> > "imports" tracking - wrong "Unable to resolve" marking in editor, but
> code
> > works correctly.
> >
> > I could switch to Idea many times, but stay with NetBeans every time, and
> > I belive:
> >
> > Apache + Groove = ❤
> > Apache NetBeans + Grails = ❤ - why not?
> >
> > --
> > ED
> >
> >
> > 27.09.2018, 01:13, "Sven Reimers" <[email protected]>:
> > > I think I saw someone looking for (better) Grails support in NetBeans
> on
> > > this list.
> > >
> > > But we could disable those modules from being built - until those
> issues
> > > are fixed.
> > >
> > > Sven
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>  I think remove all Grails stuff — very outdated.
> > >>
> > >>  Gj
> > >>
> > >>  On Thursday, September 27, 2018, Sven Reimers <
> [email protected]>
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  > Hi all,
> > >>  >
> > >>  > Seems we have a problem here:
> > >>  >
> > >>  > 1. Travis checks if tests compile
> > >>  > 2. Grails Support has test depending on "Jelly Tools Enterprise"
> > >>  > (enterprise/jellytools.enterprise) - which are not yet part of the
> > >>  release
> > >>  > build
> > >>  > 3. Travis build fails due to the missing dependency
> > >>  >
> > >>  > How to take this further?
> > >>  > Will enterprise be enabled for NetBeans 10?
> > >>  > Should I kill the tests?
> > >>  > Should we move the infrastructure used or testing this?
> > >>  >
> > >>  > :-(
> > >>  >
> > >>  > -Sven
> > >>  >
> > >>  > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 2:47 AM Sven Reimers <
> [email protected]
> > >
> > >>  > wrote:
> > >>  >
> > >>  > > PR done..
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > > Sven
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 1:42 AM Josh Juneau <[email protected]
> >
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >> +1 nice work!
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >> Josh Juneau
> > >>  > >> http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
> > >>  > >> https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >> > On Sep 24, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Sven Reimers <
> > [email protected]>
> > >>  > >> wrote:
> > >>  > >> >
> > >>  > >> > Hi,
> > >>  > >> >
> > >>  > >> > with the update to 2.5.2 (PR still to be merged) , trait
> > support and
> > >>  > >> some
> > >>  > >> > more bug fixes coming I would like to suggest Groovy to be
> > included
> > >>  in
> > >>  > >> the
> > >>  > >> > NetBeans 10 release.
> > >>  > >> >
> > >>  > >> > Comments?
> > >>  > >> >
> > >>  > >> > If ok - I will provide the necessary changes to
> > cluster.properties.
> > >>  > >> >
> > >>  > >> > -Sven
> > >>  > >>
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > >
> > >>  > > --
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> > >>  > >
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> > >>  >
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