> @Oliver Rettig
> I use the possiblity, that the users can dynamically add nb modules very 
> intensive and also
> the possitlibty that needed lib modules are automatically added if needed ...

But how often do your users add / remove modules (or enable/disable)?
And how important is the dynamic aspect -- would an IDE restart break
the workflow so much?

I agree that automatic dependency download is handy but that's what
any 'package manager' should do.

I really am wondering, as an user, if I need the dynamic nature of a
module system.

> @Neil C Smith :
> How does all this relate to things like this, and the comments about
> using third-party libraries as OSGi bundles directly?

Just thinking out loud tangentially I guess?

> Are we sure this isn't impacting any IDE functionality?

No, we aren't. I'm not even sure if we have actual OSGi modules
running. I remember Mylyn was supposed to be the 1st case of direct
use of OSGi bundles. So I guess this could be tested. 'Team | Find
Tasks...' seems to start but I can't use any connector as I don't have
anything to test it with.

I'm also surprised the JIRA connector is not included but we get a
'Download JIRA plugin' button. (This is probably taken from the Plugin
Portal? It also has a whole bunch of dependencies...)

--emi
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:29 PM Neil C Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 09:35, Emilian Bold <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Having a hybrid module system is a neat trick yet I don't see people
> > raving about it. I wonder if it wouldn't help simplify this long term.
>
> How does all this relate to things like this, and the comments about
> using third-party libraries as OSGi bundles directly?  Are we sure
> this isn't impacting any IDE functionality?
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/commit/0733bfa50a2ab70c06f3c3b65067a6f0276de801#diff-b67e908d5abd92c256d46d7b1edf5ae5
>
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2018 at 12:06, Oliver Rettig <[email protected]> wrote:
> > what are the features we will lost, if we use OSGI? Are the features we can 
> > win with OSGI?
> > Maybe we can start a wiki page to collect the things.
>
> There are quite a few pages on OSGi <> NetBeans features and interop
> on the old wiki.  I'm not sure how much has been migrated there as
> yet.
>
> The page on NBM package stability has some interesting observations on
> this, and links across to some other useful things -
> http://wiki.netbeans.org/NbmPackageStability
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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