You did a good job. I like the idea of giving feedback after being a
release manager.

Does Apache allow public betas and release candidates? Anything public has
to be voted on so I don't see how it would help.

"May you live interesting times" applies to releases too. More details to
follow, perhaps.

And all during Christmas :-)

Congratulations and a Happy New Year close to your family and friends.

--emi

On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 at 02:11, Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I was honored being your release manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating)
> 10.0.
>
> Thank you all, who contributed to this release and thank you for the
> guidance, correcting me whenever was needed!
>
> When I applied as a volunteer, I thought it would be easier especially
> after Geertjan and Emilian did a really great job releasing and
> documented the process for 9.0. Special thanks for that! It has turned
> out it is not enough to simply replicating the previous process, but we
> needed to improve that.
>
> I needed to learn a lot about the Apache way, and along the road I made
> a few mistakes, sometimes miscommunication, which could have been
> annoying or look unprofessional. I'm sorry for that. I'm sure I was not
> the best release manager for Apache NetBeans so far, I just hope I was
> good enough. As of the future, if the community trusts me I apply as a
> volunteer release manager for the upcoming Apache NetBeans 11.0 release.
>
> I see two major things need some improvement:
>
> I'm still not happy with the vote candidate naming convention. Even if
> we had no public non GA release during the 10.0 cycle, We really had an
> internal Beta 1 (10.0-vc1), Beta 2 (10.0-vc2) which we do not really had
> the intent for offer voting on PPMC. We had an Release Candidate 1
> (10.0-vc3), which almost ended up being released and at the end we had
> an RC3 (10.0 -vc5) which has been finally released as  Apache NetBeans
> (incubating) 10.0. I can live with that, though it is a bit strange to
> assemble a vote candidate, knowing that the best vote you can give on
> that is a -1. So first we need to decide if we would like to have public
> betas and release candidates in the future or not.
>
> After last minute changes: We had a short lived vc4, as of vc3 has been
> voted down on IPMC level having binary files in the source package.
> Suddenly a handful of serious issue has appeared. I do not know how can
> we help on this. There is only one thing I would add here. Please do not
> hesitate mark every legal related concerns as BLOCKER in JIRA, even if
> it is not a BLOCKER at all, we can't really let legal issues flying
> under our radar.
>
> I was overall happy with the responsiveness of the community on the issues.
>
> I think Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 is a great release!
>
> Once again, Thank you for all!
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Release Manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0
>
> P.S.: Constructive feedback on the my work and the process are more than
> Welcome!
>
>
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