You did a good job. I like the idea of giving feedback after being a release manager.
Does Apache allow public betas and release candidates? Anything public has to be voted on so I don't see how it would help. "May you live interesting times" applies to releases too. More details to follow, perhaps. And all during Christmas :-) Congratulations and a Happy New Year close to your family and friends. --emi On Sat, 29 Dec 2018 at 02:11, Laszlo Kishalmi <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > I was honored being your release manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) > 10.0. > > Thank you all, who contributed to this release and thank you for the > guidance, correcting me whenever was needed! > > When I applied as a volunteer, I thought it would be easier especially > after Geertjan and Emilian did a really great job releasing and > documented the process for 9.0. Special thanks for that! It has turned > out it is not enough to simply replicating the previous process, but we > needed to improve that. > > I needed to learn a lot about the Apache way, and along the road I made > a few mistakes, sometimes miscommunication, which could have been > annoying or look unprofessional. I'm sorry for that. I'm sure I was not > the best release manager for Apache NetBeans so far, I just hope I was > good enough. As of the future, if the community trusts me I apply as a > volunteer release manager for the upcoming Apache NetBeans 11.0 release. > > I see two major things need some improvement: > > I'm still not happy with the vote candidate naming convention. Even if > we had no public non GA release during the 10.0 cycle, We really had an > internal Beta 1 (10.0-vc1), Beta 2 (10.0-vc2) which we do not really had > the intent for offer voting on PPMC. We had an Release Candidate 1 > (10.0-vc3), which almost ended up being released and at the end we had > an RC3 (10.0 -vc5) which has been finally released as Apache NetBeans > (incubating) 10.0. I can live with that, though it is a bit strange to > assemble a vote candidate, knowing that the best vote you can give on > that is a -1. So first we need to decide if we would like to have public > betas and release candidates in the future or not. > > After last minute changes: We had a short lived vc4, as of vc3 has been > voted down on IPMC level having binary files in the source package. > Suddenly a handful of serious issue has appeared. I do not know how can > we help on this. There is only one thing I would add here. Please do not > hesitate mark every legal related concerns as BLOCKER in JIRA, even if > it is not a BLOCKER at all, we can't really let legal issues flying > under our radar. > > I was overall happy with the responsiveness of the community on the issues. > > I think Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 is a great release! > > Once again, Thank you for all! > > Laszlo Kishalmi > > Release Manager of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10.0 > > P.S.: Constructive feedback on the my work and the process are more than > Welcome! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > -- --emi