I don't mind either way, but I don't think somebody needs to 'shadow' a RM.
Dive right in and do it!

--emi


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 9:41 AM Geertjan Wielenga
<geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Or, if we want to start a new thread as suggested here by Emilian, to vote
> in a release manager, let's do that. However, we need to do something -- to
> be honest, having a release manager in Laszlo is great since he's done it
> before, he's enthusiastic, and he's volunteered, and he wanted to do it
> partly because he'd done it before and wanted to get a firmer grasp on the
> experience before handing it over to someone else. Having Neil shadow him
> would be great for the next round.
>
> Note also that we're already slipping right now in that we do not have our
> first voting candidate as scheduled:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+11.0+Schedule
>
> Gj
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:30 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well, Laszlo volunteered and was happy to take on the task -- Neil
> > volunteered to shadow the release manager. He didn't volunteer to be the
> > release manager, at all. :-) Let's not push him into a position he didn't
> > volunteer for. Neil, do you want to be the release manager -- or should
> > Laszlo do it with you shadowing him? It's up to you, since Laszlo is
> happy
> > to do it.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 8:22 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I really meant that I'm withdrawing my candidacy. In the meantime
> >> something
> >> else came up and I won't have the energy to deal with a NB release too.
> >>
> >> I really think Neil can do it by himself. And he has 2 other previous
> RMs
> >> to ask questions.
> >>
> >> --emi
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 5:06 PM Geertjan Wielenga
> >> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> > For the release manager and his shadow:
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
> >> >
> >> > Gj
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >> > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > And, not just producing the release, but also herding cats
> beforehand.
> >> > :-)
> >> > >
> >> > > Gj
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
> >> > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+Release+README#ApacheNetBeansReleaseREADME-ProducingaReleaseCandidate
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Gj
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Silly question but what are the responsibilities of the Release
> >> > Manager?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Eric Bresie
> >> > >>> ebre...@gmail.com
> >> > >>> > On February 5, 2019 at 5:42:50 AM CST, Neil C Smith <
> >> > >>> neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > >>> > On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 11:28, Geertjan Wielenga
> >> > >>> > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> > >>> > > Sounds like Emilian is release manager, with Neil as the
> shadow
> >> > >>> release
> >> > >>> > > manager!
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Great! Still be good to get another person who wants to learn
> the
> >> > >>> > process in there too - partly prompted by Laszlo's comment about
> >> > >>> > learning while being main RM.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > > (Not to be confused with British politics where the 'shadow'
> >> > >>> minister is
> >> > >>> > > the opposition minister. :-) )
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > In normal times, maybe. Now it's just everyone opposing everyone
> >> > >>> > else. I will try not to reflect the current chaos of British
> >> politics
> >> > >>> > in this! :-)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Best wishes,
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Neil
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
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