Hi Aldrinsome additional information.it39s a typical ETL offloading user case 
each extraction job should foucs on 1 table and 1 table only.  data will be 
written on HDFS , this is similar to Database Staging. The reason why we need 
to foucs on 1 table for each job is because there might be database error or 
disconnection occur during the extraction , if it39s running as  a script like 
extraction job with expression langurage, then it39s hard to do the re-running 
or excape thing on that table or tables.once the extraction is done, a triger 
like action will do the data cleansing.  this is similar to ODS layer of 
Datawarehousingif the data quality has passed the quality check , then it will 
be marked as cleaned. otherwise , it will return to previous step and redo the 
data extraction, or send alert/email to the  system administrator.if certain 
numbers of tables were all cleaned and checked , then it will  call some 
Transforming  processor to do the transforming , then push the data into a 
datawarehouse (Hive in our case)Thank you very much Yan Liu 

Hortonworks Service Division 

Richinfo, Shenzhen, China (PR)

13/03/2016----邮件原文----发件人:"刘岩" <[email protected]>收件人:users  
<[email protected]>抄 送: dev  <[email protected]>发送时间:2016-03-13 
00:12:27主题:Re:Re: Multiple dataflow jobs management(lots of jobs)Hi 
AldrinCurrently  we need to extract 60K tables per day , and the time window is 
limited to 8 Hours.  Which means that we need to run jobs concurrently , and we 
need a general description of what39s going on with all those 60K job flows and 
take further actions.  We have tried Kettle and Talend ,  Talend is a IDE-Based 
so not what we are looking for,  and Kettle was crashed due to the Mysql cannot 
handle the Kettle39s metadata with 10K jobs.So we want to use Nifi ,  this is 
really the product that we are looking for , but  the missing piece here is a 
DataFlow jobs Admin Page.  so we can have multiple Nifi instances running on 
different nodes, but monitoring the jobs in one page.  If it can intergrate 
with Ambari metrics API,  then we can develop an Ambari View for Nifi Jobs 
Monitoring just like HDFS View and Hive View. Thank you very much Yan Liu 

Hortonworks Service Division 

Richinfo, Shenzhen, China (PR)

06/03/2016----邮件原文----发件人:Aldrin Piri  <[email protected]>收件人:users 
<[email protected]>抄 送: dev  <[email protected]>发送时间:2016-03-11 
02:27:11主题:Re: Mutiple dataflow jobs management(lots of jobs)Hi Yan,
We can get more into details and particulars if needed, but have you 
experimented with expression language?  I could see a Cron driven approach 
which covers your periodic efforts that feeds some number of ExecuteSQL 
processors (perhaps one for each database you are communicating with) each 
having a table.  This would certainly cut down on the need for the 30k 
processors on a one-to-one basis with a given processor.

In terms of monitoring the dataflows, could you describe what else you are 
searching for beyond the graph view?  NiFi tries to provide context for the 
flow of data but is not trying to be a sole monitoring, we can give information 
on a processor basis, but do not delve into specifics.  There is a summary view 
for the overall flow where you can monitor stats about the components and 
connections in the system. We support interoperation with monitoring systems 
via push (ReportingTask) and pull (REST API [2]) semantics. 

Any other details beyond your list of how this all interoperates might shed 
some more light on what you are trying to accomplish.  It seems like NiFi 
should be able to help with this.  With some additional information we may be 
able to provide further guidance or at least get some insights on use cases we 
could look to improve upon and extend NiFi to support.

Thanks!


[1] http://nifi.apache.org/docs/nifi-docs/html/expression-language-guide.html
[2] 
http://nifi.apache.org/docs/nifi-docs/html/developer-guide.html#reporting-tasks
[3] http://nifi.apache.org/docs/nifi-docs/rest-api/index.html



On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 9:25 PM, 刘岩 <[email protected]> wrote:Hi All 



    i39m trying to adapt Nifi to production but can not find an admin console 
which monitoring the dataflows



   The scenarios is simple,  



   1.  we gather data from oracle database to hdfs and then to hive.

   2.  residules/incrementals are updated daily or monthly via Nifi.

   3.  full dump on some table are excuted daily or monthly via Nifi.



    is it really simple ,  however , we have  7 oracle databases with over 30K  
tables needs to implement the above scenario.



which means that i will drag that ExcuteSQL  elements for like 30K time or so 
and also need to place them with a nice looking way on my little 21 inch screen 
. 



Just wondering if there is a table list like  ,groupable and searchable task 
control and monitoring feature for Nifi 





Thank you very much  in advance





Yan Liu 

Hortonworks Service Division 

Richinfo, Shenzhen, China (PR)

06/03/2016












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