Yeah as I was going through it and creating all those delegates I thought about trying to define a higher-level API but that's about where I stopped. I'd definitely be interested to see what you've got.
Thanks, Matt On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:50 PM Mike Thomsen <mikerthom...@gmail.com> wrote: > Matt, > > IIRC in your PR you had abstractions on the basic APIs. I think the right > approach would be to make the driver controller services provide an API for > querying so the processors and other services never have to work with the > api or an abstraction of it. > > I have a lot of progress on such an an approach I can post to my repo if > you're interested. > > On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 7:31 AM Matt Burgess <mattyb...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Now that the Couchbase PR is up I can continue my work on this if > > everyone's ok with the approach. > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 5:30 AM Pierre Villard < > > pierre.villard...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hey guys, what's the latest on this? > > > > > > Le sam. 23 mars 2024 à 01:49, Mike Thomsen <mikerthom...@gmail.com> a > > > écrit : > > > > > > > Fair enough, Joe. > > > > > > > > Matt, > > > > > > > > I poked around your branch a little this evening. I agree with you > and > > > > David 100% now on the need for some sort of abstraction. I think the > > > Graph > > > > Bundle's model could serve as a good starting point for how to > approach > > > the > > > > problem. The client drivers in that bundle do the heavy lifting of > > doing > > > > the querying and passing the results back via a callback system to > the > > > > processors that call them to ensure that the processors don't know > > > anything > > > > other than they're getting back a Map of result data each iteration. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 2:48 PM Joe Witt <joe.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > > > The bundles we include cannot have libs with know vulns and that > > last a > > > > > very long time. That is a more pressing blocker. > > > > > > > > > > As noted top of thread we all recognize the importance of being > able > > to > > > > > integrate with Cassandra but including that must come with active > mx > > > > > especially as it relates to vulns. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:42 AM Mike Thomsen < > > mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The scope tag was probably copy pasta. You raise a valid point > > about > > > > the > > > > > > processor dependencies that completely slipped my mind. That > said, > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > it's premature to remove the cassandra bundle until we have a > > working > > > > > > replacement. I would consider that support a blocker for 2.X. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 12:00 PM Matt Burgess < > mattyb...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > David beat me to it :) IMO the only NAR that should have any > > > > > dependencies > > > > > > > on Cassandra is the services NAR, not the processors or > services > > > API. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:10 AM David Handermann < > > > > > > > exceptionfact...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for sharing the branch, it is helpful to have that as > a > > > > > > > > reference example. Have you been able to exercise any of that > > > > > approach > > > > > > > > at runtime? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Based on what is there right now, attempting to mark the > > DataStax > > > > > > > > java-driver-core as provided does not look like it will work. > > It > > > > may > > > > > > > > pass unit tests, but runtime NAR class loading requires that > > > > classes > > > > > > > > be available in the same NAR, or in a parent NAR. That means > > when > > > > > NiFi > > > > > > > > tries to load the Controller Service interface, it must have > > > access > > > > > to > > > > > > > > a version of the relevant Cassandra driver classes. By > marking > > > the > > > > > > > > dependency as provided, it will not be available in the API > > NAR, > > > > and > > > > > > > > thus not available when loading the service interface. > > Including > > > it > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the API NAR won't work either, because it conflicts with the > > > > ScyllaDB > > > > > > > > java-driver-core in the implementation NAR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the reason Matt and I highlighted for providing a > layer > > > of > > > > > > > > abstraction at the Controller Service API level. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > David Handermann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:13 AM Mike Thomsen < > > > > mikerthom...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Work so far: > > > > https://github.com/MikeThomsen/nifi/tree/cql-changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 9:52 AM Mike Thomsen < > > > > > mikerthom...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matt/David, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By this evening, I should be at a point where I can share > > my > > > > > > branch. > > > > > > > It > > > > > > > > > > should be far enough along that y'all can see what I mean > > > about > > > > > how > > > > > > > > most of > > > > > > > > > > the changes really weren't that complicated. My sense is > > that > > > > if > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > > collaborate on it, we can probably get it ready for a PR > > > > within a > > > > > > > week > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > two. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would probably be a good idea to plan to revisit the > > > > Cassandra > > > > > > > DMC's > > > > > > > > > > design and make it more flexible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One nice thing about the new DataStax driver is that it > > > > supports > > > > > > > > > > configuration by a very detailed configuration file > format, > > > so > > > > we > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > give > > > > > > > > > > users that option + combine it with EL/parameters (I > > envision > > > > an > > > > > > > option > > > > > > > > > > where the user puts EL in the file, we load the file, > > > > preprocess > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > EL and > > > > > > > > > > load that into the driver) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 4:01 PM Mike Thomsen < > > > > > > mikerthom...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> If it were that simple, they would probably have just > gone > > > > with > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > >> solution. That said, the API is functionally vendor > > agnostic > > > > at > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > point > > > > > > > > > >> at the Java API level. So I see no need to add > abstraction > > > > above > > > > > > > > that. I've > > > > > > > > > >> got probably 2/3 of nifi-cassandra-bundle converted. > > > Hitting a > > > > > few > > > > > > > > pain > > > > > > > > > >> points where I'm having to dig deep into the docs to > make > > > > > > progress, > > > > > > > > but so > > > > > > > > > >> far, so good. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 2:38 PM Matt Burgess < > > > > > > mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> It would be interesting to see if you exclude the > Scylla > > > API > > > > > JAR > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > > >>> Scylla implementation and instead include DataStax's, > if > > > that > > > > > > > works. > > > > > > > > > >>> However I'm still leaning towards a vendor-agnostic > API. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 11:26 AM Mike Thomsen < > > > > > > > > mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > At first glance, the package names look identical to > > me: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://java-driver.docs.scylladb.com/scylla-4.15.0.x/api/index.html > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > So I see no reason to not take them at their word > that > > > it's > > > > > > > drop-in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 11:04 AM David Handermann < > > > > > > > > > >>> > exceptionfact...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Mike, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > One important thing to mention about the DataStax > vs > > > > > ScyllaDB > > > > > > > > driver > > > > > > > > > >>> > > is that the Maven coordinates are different, and > > > managing > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > dependencies correctly will make or break the > > > > > implementation. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > In other words, if it is possible to use the > > DataStax 4 > > > > > core > > > > > > > JAR > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > the Controller Service API, but use the ScyllaDB 3 > > > query > > > > > JAR > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > ScyllaDB implementation, then that could avoid the > > need > > > > for > > > > > > > > > >>> additional > > > > > > > > > >>> > > abstraction. Without taking a closer look, > however, I > > > > would > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > >>> > > surprised if this worked. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Although ScyllaDB highlights their forked driver > as a > > > > > drop-in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > replacement for the DataStax version, and maintains > > the > > > > > same > > > > > > > Java > > > > > > > > > >>> > > package names, there is a difference between a > > complete > > > > > > > > replacement > > > > > > > > > >>> > > and a shared API JAR. Without a common API JAR, > that > > > both > > > > > > > > > >>> > > implementations can use, it will be necessary to > > > provide > > > > an > > > > > > > > > >>> > > abstraction in NiFi that avoids depending on either > > > > library > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Controller Service API level. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > David Handermann > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:25 AM Mike Thomsen < > > > > > > > > mikerthom...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > Matt/David, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > I got some time this morning to take a crack at > > > > directly > > > > > > > > migrating > > > > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > > > >>> > > over > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > to the DataStax 4.17 driver. Definitely got a lot > > of > > > > work > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > do, > > > > > > > > > >>> but so > > > > > > > > > >>> > > far > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > I haven't hit any real snags. This is a branch > that > > > > > reverts > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> commit > > > > > > > > > >>> > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > remove the cassandra bundle and reuses the > existing > > > > > > features > > > > > > > > as a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > foundation. From what I'm seeing so far (feels > like > > > I'm > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > 25% > > > > > > > > > >>> done) > > > > > > > > > >>> > > it > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > should be doable to reuse the existing bundle, > but > > > > rename > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > >>> > "CQL > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > Bundle" and just add a second controller service > > for > > > > > Scylla > > > > > > > > that is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > otherwise 100% the same codewise. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 6:41 PM Mike Thomsen < > > > > > > > > > >>> mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > A cursory look at the Cassandra 5 stuff didn’t > > > > indicate > > > > > > any > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > incompatibility. So yeah, I think we are likely > > > > pretty > > > > > > safe > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> use > > > > > > > > > >>> > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > 4.17 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > driver > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Mar 19, 2024, at 3:35 PM, Matt Burgess < > > > > > > > > > >>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Is it likely now (due to the refactor) that > we > > > > will > > > > > > > > simply be > > > > > > > > > >>> able > > > > > > > > > >>> > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > upgrade the driver when Cassandra 5 is GA? > Also > > > > does > > > > > > > > anyone use > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Netflix's > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Astyanax [1]? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cassandra.apache.org/doc/stable/cassandra/getting_started/drivers.html#java > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 3:10 PM Mike > Thomsen < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> Realistically, I think we are only likely to > > see > > > > two > > > > > > > > drivers: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> * DataStax > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> * ScyllaDB > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> The latter makes a selling point of being a > > > binary > > > > > > > > compatible, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > drop-in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> replacement for the former. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> That's why I don't see a need to have an > > > > abstraction > > > > > > > > layer per > > > > > > > > > >>> > se. I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > think > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> we only need > "DataStaxConnectionProviderImpl" > > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> "ScyllaDBConnectionProviderImpl" with the > > > > difference > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > >>> which > > > > > > > > > >>> > > jar is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> imported by maven. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 2:59 PM David > > > Handermann < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> exceptionfact...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Mike, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks for the reply and clarification. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I agree there is no need to maintain > support > > > for > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> DataStax 3 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > driver > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> and Java API, any new components should be > > > built > > > > on > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> latest > > > > > > > > > >>> > > version > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> of the driver. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> What we do need going forward is to avoid, > if > > > at > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > >>> possible, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > having > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> a DataStax 4 dependency in the Controller > > > Service > > > > > > API. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> One example of this is the > > > > WebClientServiceProvider > > > > > > > > > >>> interface. > > > > > > > > > >>> > That > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Controller Service API does not have any > > > > > third-party > > > > > > > > > >>> > dependencies. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > The > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Controller Service implementation, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > StandardWebClientServiceProvider, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> has a dependency on OkHttp to implement > HTTP > > > > > > > > communication. > > > > > > > > > >>> That > > > > > > > > > >>> > is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the kind of abstraction that would be > ideal, > > > and > > > > I > > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > >>> that > > > > > > > > > >>> > > also > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> aligns with what Matt has described. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> David Handermann > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 1:45 PM Mike > Thomsen > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> ** we can dump v3 **DRIVER** > compatibility, > > > > since > > > > > > > later > > > > > > > > 4.X > > > > > > > > > >>> Java > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> drivers > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> are backward compatible with Cassandra 3 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 2:43 PM Mike > > Thomsen < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> David, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> Before we proceed, I think we should make > > > sure > > > > > > we're > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> understanding > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> same problem here. Starting with this: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> I believe the CQL protocol is backwards > > > > > compatible > > > > > > > > but the > > > > > > > > > >>> > Java > > > > > > > > > >>> > > API > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> not. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> For example > > > "com.datastax.driver.core.Session" > > > > > is > > > > > > > now > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > "com.datastax.oss.driver.api.core.session.Session" > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> there > > > > > > > > > >>> > is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > no > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> more > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> "Cluster" class. Might be fairly trivial > > to > > > > fix > > > > > > > > though, if > > > > > > > > > >>> > > that's > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> path > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> of least resistance. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> From what I've learned using Cassandra 3 > > and > > > 4 > > > > in > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > day > > > > > > > > > >>> job > > > > > > > > > >>> > and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> reading > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> up on this stuff for the sake of > > discussion, > > > > that > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > >>> tracks. > > > > > > > > > >>> > We > > > > > > > > > >>> > > used > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> ~4.11 driver in Spring Boot on both v3 > and > > v4 > > > > > > > clusters > > > > > > > > > >>> without > > > > > > > > > >>> > > issue > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> during > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> an upgrade. So I don't see any reason to > > > factor > > > > > in > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> "changes > > > > > > > > > >>> > > from > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> DataStax 3 to 4" since the changes were > > > likely > > > > a > > > > > > > > one-off > > > > > > > > > >>> > decision > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> meant to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> position the driver for better future > > support > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> stability. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> TL;DR, we can dump v3 compatibility and > the > > > > only > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > >>> > users > > > > > > > > > >>> > > will > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> notice is if we make the controller > service > > > > > totally > > > > > > > > > >>> > incompatible > > > > > > > > > >>> > > with > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> one they're already using which is > > something > > > we > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > >>> actively > > > > > > > > > >>> > > avoid. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM David > > > > Handermann > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> exceptionfact...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> All, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> I support a Controller Service API > > > abstraction > > > > > > > around > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Driver. The changes from DataStax 3 to 4 > > > > already > > > > > > > > > >>> highlight the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > need > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> for that abstraction. The donation of > the > > > > > DataStax > > > > > > > > Java > > > > > > > > > >>> driver > > > > > > > > > >>> > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Apache [1] also shows the value of > > providing > > > > > some > > > > > > > > level of > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> isolation, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> if at all possible. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> I have not taken a close look at the > > Matt's > > > > > > branch, > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > details > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> of > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> the abstraction are important, but > having > > > the > > > > > > > > abstraction > > > > > > > > > >>> can > > > > > > > > > >>> > be > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> useful to avoid getting back to this > same > > > > > > situation. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> David Handermann > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/cassandra-java-driver/ > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 12:37 PM Mike > > > Thomsen > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> mikerthom...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> Matt, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> I got that. My point was that the Java > > > > changes > > > > > > > > appear to > > > > > > > > > >>> be a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > one > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> time > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> thing that DataStax did to make a > better > > > > driver > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > >>> much > > > > > > > > > >>> > > more > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> future-proof API. Since Scylla tracks > > them > > > as > > > > > > > > closely as > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> possible, I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> suspect that we don't need to plan for > a > > > > bunch > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > >>> abstraction > > > > > > > > > >>> > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> isolate > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> Java changes. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 11:07 AM Steven > > > > > Matison < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> steven.mati...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> That was kinda where i got stuck and > > fell > > > > out > > > > > on > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > >>> > > branch/jira. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Mike and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> I wanted to make a new controller > > service > > > , > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > >>> backward > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> compatibility; > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> and remove the duplicate > > driver/connection > > > > > > > > properties > > > > > > > > > >>> found > > > > > > > > > >>> > in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> some > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> of the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> processors. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> I agree taking out all old stuff and > > > making > > > > > new > > > > > > > > > >>> controller > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> service > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> makes > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> most sense. 4.x and 5.x should be > > mostly > > > > > > > backwards > > > > > > > > > >>> > compatible > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> 2&3.x > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> with how it’s used within current > > > > processors. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:49 AM Matt > > > > Burgess > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> The abstraction is to isolate Java > API > > > > > changes, > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > >>> > protocol > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> compatibility > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Changing to the java-driver comes > with > > a > > > > > number > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > >>> changes > > > > > > > > > >>> > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> code > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> (see > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Steven's and my branches), if we can > > > > abstract > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > API > > > > > > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> should > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> lead to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> more maintainable code in the future > by > > > not > > > > > > > having > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > change > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> any > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> processors, just the controller > service > > > > > > > > implementation. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:14 AM Mike > > > > > Thomsen < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://opensource.docs.scylladb.com/stable/using-scylla/drivers/cql-drivers/scylla-java-driver.html > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Directly quoting Scylla docs here: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> The Scylla Java Driver is a drop-in > > > > > > replacement > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> DataStax Java > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Driver. As such, no code changes are > > > > needed > > > > > to > > > > > > > use > > > > > > > > > >>> this > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> driver. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 10:13 AM > Mike > > > > > Thomsen > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Matt, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> I don't think we need to really > > > "abstract > > > > > > > above" > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> drivers > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> because > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Java DataStax driver appears to > > support > > > > 4.X > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> way > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> back to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> 2.X, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> as > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> well as the enterprise versions > from > > > > > DataStax > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://docs.datastax.com/en/driver-matrix/docs/java-drivers.html > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Similar situation with Scylla. > When I > > > > > looked > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> driver, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> it > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> appeared > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> copy verbatim the entire public API > > of > > > > that > > > > > > > > driver. > > > > > > > > > >>> So I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> think > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> before > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> dive into abstractions, it's worth > > > doing > > > > a > > > > > > bit > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> validation > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> of > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> these > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> details. IMHO, this might be a much > > > > lighter > > > > > > > lift > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> anticipated. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 4:30 PM > Matt > > > > > Burgess > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> mattyb...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Totally agree, that's what my > branch > > > > does > > > > > > (see > > > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > > >>> in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> previous > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> email). > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> more I work with it, the more I > > think > > > I > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > >>> abstract it > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> further from > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> their > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> JDBC-like API but I started with a > > > bunch > > > > > of > > > > > > > > delegate > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> classes > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> then I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> figure > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll see where I can consolidate > to > > > more > > > > > > > > abstract > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> concepts. If > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> don't > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to support Cassandra 3 with the > new > > > API, > > > > > so > > > > > > > > much the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> better. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Matt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 4:14 PM > > David > > > > > > > > Handermann < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> exceptionfact...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt et al, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is good to see the background > > > effort > > > > > on > > > > > > > > moving > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> capabilities in a supportable > > > > direction. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think new Cassandra components > > will > > > > > > > require a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> significant > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> departure > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> from current Controller Service > > > > > > abstractions. > > > > > > > > Right > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> now, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> existing > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> service interface does not > provide > > a > > > > > clean > > > > > > > > > >>> abstraction > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> from > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cassandra library, which is part > of > > > the > > > > > > > reason > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> current > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> coupling to the legacy driver > > > version. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Following up from Joe's comments, > > it > > > > > seems > > > > > > > > like the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> cleanest > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> way > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> forward is to deprecate the > current > > > > > bundle > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> 1.x > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> branch, and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> remove the current bundle from > the > > > main > > > > > > > branch. > > > > > > > > > >>> That > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> will > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> provide > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> clean slate for new Service and > > > > Processor > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> implementations, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> without > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> concern for uncertain > compatibility > > > > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> David Handermann > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 2:35 PM > > Matt > > > > > > Burgess > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do y'all think about > removing > > > the > > > > > > > > individual > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> connection > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> properties > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the Cassandra processors > for > > > NiFi > > > > > 2.0 > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> requiring a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CassandraSessionProvider > instead? > > I > > > > > think > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > >>> started > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> doing > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> that > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Elasticsearch maybe?), I > noticed > > > > > > duplicate > > > > > > > > code > > > > > > > > > >>> in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CassandraSessionProvider and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> AbstractCassandraProcessor, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> if we > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> keep > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> those > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> properties I can refactor them > > into > > > a > > > > > > > utility > > > > > > > > > >>> class. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 2:44 PM > > > Steven > > > > > > > > Matison < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> steven.mati...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got through quite a bit of > work > > > to > > > > > > enable > > > > > > > > 4.x… > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The 3.x pieces that were not > > > > backwards > > > > > > > > compatible > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> very edge > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> use > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> case and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could have been done slightly > > > > > differently > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > >>> with > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> work > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> around. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > https://github.com/steven-matison/nifi/tree/nifi-10120-1 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 2:30 PM > > > Matt > > > > > > > Burgess > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oops used the wrong email > > address > > > so > > > > > if > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> have > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> been > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> responses > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cassandra thread since mine I > > > missed > > > > > > them, > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> bad! > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > 2:00 PM > > > Matt > > > > > > > > Burgess < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> mattyb...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe the CQL protocol is > > > > > backwards > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> compatible > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> but the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Java > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> API is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. For example > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> "com.datastax.driver.core.Session" > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> is now > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > "com.datastax.oss.driver.api.core.session.Session" > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> there > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> is > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> no > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> more > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cluster" class. Might be > > fairly > > > > > > trivial > > > > > > > > to fix > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> though, if > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> that's > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> path > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of least resistance. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > 1:40 PM > > > Joe > > > > > > Witt > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> joe.w...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I dont know a ton about > > > Cassandra > > > > > but > > > > > > > > when I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> looked > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> at > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> client/driver > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 4+ it said it was > > compatible > > > > all > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > way > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> back > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> to 3.x. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Not > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> sure > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that means but it surely > seems > > > > worth > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> exploring. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Also I > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> dont > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> know > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> if > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.x drivers get rid of the > > > > > vulnerable > > > > > > > > bits. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > > 10:39 AM > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > Burgess > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At the very least we should > > > > upgrade > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 3.11.6: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/cassandra-3.11.16/CHANGES.txt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > > 1:31 PM > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> Burgess < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the community agrees to > > get > > > > rid > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> 3 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> that'll > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> save me > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the refactor after I > add > > > > > > Cassandra > > > > > > > 4 > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Otherwise > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> those > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vulnerabilities would only > > be > > > > in a > > > > > > > "new" > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Cassandra 3 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> services > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> NAR > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would not be included in > the > > > > > > > convenience > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> binary. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > > > 1:28 PM > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > Witt < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> joe.w...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike, Matt, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to hear you both > have > > > > > active > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> efforts > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> or > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> are > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> interested > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you help me > understand > > > more > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> specifically > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> what > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> that > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> means > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current set of > components? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The CVE hits are > concerning > > > and > > > > > > long > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> standing. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Supporting > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implies the current set > of > > > > > > > dependencies > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> would > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> remain > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> too > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> right? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the current set of > > > > components > > > > > we > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ones > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> want > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> retain? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly need Cassandra > > > > > > components - > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> are > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> ones > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> right ones? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > > > > 10:25 AM > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Burgess < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mattyb...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm actively working > > this, I > > > > > > pushed > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> branch up > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> case > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take a look [1]. The > idea > > is > > > > to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> abstract > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> API > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> "up > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> couple > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> levels" and provide > > > > > > implementations > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> 3, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> 4, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eventually > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For JDBC-like interfaces > > > this > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > PITA > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> because of > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> API > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Statement, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PreparedStatement, > > > > > BoundStatement, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ResultSet, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> etc.) > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> but > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hoping > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a common pattern > for > > > > > > > abstracting > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> third-party > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> library > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implementation and API > > from > > > > the > > > > > > NiFi > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> component > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> (Processor, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ControllerService, etc.) > > > API. > > > > I > > > > > > > think > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> we're > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> doing > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> something > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> similar > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kafka? > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > https://github.com/mattyb149/nifi/tree/cassy4 > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at > > > > 8:43 AM > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thomsen > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mikerthom...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s been on my todo > > list > > > > > for a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> little > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> while > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> but > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> things > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kept > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I could get > > started > > > > on > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> now. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> Based > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> on > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> my > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> initial > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> research > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears that scylla > uses > > > the > > > > > > exact > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> same > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> api as > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> datastax > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> so > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supporting > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a cql bundle should > > > > > > > theoretically > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> be > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> fairly > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> easy. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2024, at > > > 6:18 PM, > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Witt < > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> joew...@apache.org> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Team, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cassandra remains a > > really > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> important > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> system to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> be > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> able > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> data > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, it seems like > > > we've > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> maintained > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> these > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> well. We > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears to be at > least a > > > > full > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> generation > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> behind > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> on > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> client > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (we > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on 3x vs 4x which is > the > > > > > latest > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> stable > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> with 5x > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> apparently > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coming > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shortly). > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have components to > > send > > > > > data, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> query > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> data, > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> use > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cassandra > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cache > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> store. We have older > > > > > mechanisms > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> for > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> json/avro > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> publish > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mechanisms > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The libraries we do > have > > > > > depend > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> outdated > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> versions of > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guava > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many CVE hits. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am inclined to think > > we > > > > > should > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> deprecate the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> 1.x > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> components > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remove > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them as-is from the > 2.x > > > > line. > > > > > > > Then > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> re-introduce > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> them > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> with > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> record > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces and built > > > against > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> latest > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> stable > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Cassandra/Datastax/ScyllaDB > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interfaces. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd love to hear > > thoughts > > > > from > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> those > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> closer to > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> this > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> space > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> both > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and developer so we > can > > > make > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> next > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> steps. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>>>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
