Agreed.  Will adjust and resend.
On Jun 14, 2015 11:10 AM, "Sean Busbey" <[email protected]> wrote:

> "Realtime" is an overloaded term that had a very specific meaning that
> isn't applicable to us.
>
> I'd suggest "interactive command and control"
>
> --
> Sean
> On Jun 14, 2015 9:47 AM, "Joe Witt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hello
> >
> > See below proposed adjustment to the language of our graduation
> resolution.
> >
> > Those interested in seeing the goings on of the ipmc can do so at
> > general@iao.. mailing list.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "Joe Witt" <[email protected]>
> > Date: Jun 14, 2015 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION] Graduate NiFi from the Apache Incubator
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Cc:
> >
> > Niclas,
> >
> > I agree that the scope could be improved.  It is a tough balancing act
> > of course.  How would about this modification:
> >
> >     WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >     interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >     Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >     Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >     open-source software, for distribution at no charge to
> >     the public, related to an automated and durable data broker
> >     between systems providing realtime command and control
> >     and detailed chain of custody for data.
> >
> >     NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >     Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache NiFi Project",
> >     be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >     Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >     RESOLVED, that the Apache NiFi Project be and hereby is
> >     responsible for the creation and maintenance of software
> >     related to an automated and durable data broker
> >     between systems providing realtime command and control
> >     and detailed chain of custody for data; and be it further
> >
> >     ...
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Niclas Hedhman <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > From the peanut gallery;
> > > Doesn't
> > >     "related to the automated and managed flow of information between
> > > systems"
> > > apply to at least half of all software out there?
> > >
> > > In other words, the scope is very wide, and could include anything from
> > > SNMP to Apache Mesos and much much more. I think the Board will be
> > happier
> > > with a somewhat more narrow definition.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Niclas
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 1:04 AM, jan i <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> thanks for the responses I will cast a +1 at vote time.
> > >>
> > >> sorry for asking the questions, but I was insecure.
> > >>
> > >> rgds
> > >> jan i
> > >>
> > >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Benson Margulies <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Sean sure makes more sense than me.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Joe Witt <[email protected]
> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > > Sean is one of those folks i referred to.  Id be an easy +1
> > >> > > On Jun 12, 2015 9:24 AM, "Andrew Purtell" <[email protected]
> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> As Sean says he's been engaged with the project while acting as
> > >> mentor,
> > >> > >> IMHO beyond mentor-ly duties. If the NiFi folks will have him on
> > the
> > >> > >> initial PMC and he's willing to join it, this should resolve the
> > >> stated
> > >> > >> concerns.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Friday, June 12, 2015, Sean Busbey <[email protected]
> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > >> > >> > [email protected] <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> > >> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Sean Busbey <
> > [email protected]
> > >> > <javascript:;>
> > >> > >> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > >> > > > ...I have no reason to believe either my engagement or the
> > >> PPMC's
> > >> > >> > > willingness
> > >> > >> > > > to reach out to or listen to what I have to say will change
> > upon
> > >> > >> > > > graduation, so I don't think they need a checkbox ASF
> member
> > on
> > >> > the
> > >> > >> > > initial
> > >> > >> > > > PMC and I'd prefer they not add one...
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > > It's not about ticking a checkbox - it's about an ASF member
> > >> > agreeing
> > >> > >> > > to stay with the project to help here and there with things
> > where
> > >> > >> > > members can help.
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> > >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Understood. I can't speak for any other ASF member, but I'm
> > already
> > >> > >> there,
> > >> > >> > engaged, and planning to stay. I don't need a binding PMC vote
> to
> > do
> > >> > >> that.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > --
> > >> > >> > Sean
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> Best regards,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>    - Andy
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. -
> Piet
> > >> Hein
> > >> > >> (via Tom White)
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
> > > http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
> >
>

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