On Tuesday 03 May 2011 06:08:07 Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> Hi Markus,
>
> If one committer is willing to maintain something and use it that's
> probably good enough. I'm not saying it's going to be me (b/c something is
> done when it's actually done and produced and I haven't produced it yet :)
> ), but I'm at least going to try. Plus if one of the members of the Nutch
> community is willing to put it together I'll sign up to help it get
> committed to the sources.
Yes, that makes sense :)
>
> Note the Nutch 1.4+ UI could simply be an extension of the Solr
> VelocityResponseWriter if that makes sense. No problem there from me. What
> I kind of *do* have a problem with is that we removed existing
> functionality that has been present for all prior Nutch releases and our
> alternative is telling someone to go figure out another software product
> and how to whip up a UI for it, and in doing so we're telling people to
> not develop UI stuff in Nutch and splintering that part of our community.
> That probably wasn't the best idea. I mentioned this when it was
> happening, but because I didn't have time to provide an alternative, I
> didn't stand in the way for it to block the progress at the time.
After 1.3 i'll try to make some time available for a neatly bundled indexer
and interface.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 6:09 PM, Markus Jelsma wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > An immediate available search interface is indeed a very good idea but
> > i'd rather delegate it to Solr and any future supporting back end
> > instead of also maintaining it in Nutch. I'd be a lot of work for few
> > busy committers.
> >
> > Using AjaxSolr, in my opinion, is also not that good an idea because it
> > needs a separate webserver and needs more custom coding than Solr's
> > VelocityResponseWriter. And, it requires Solr and won't work with any
> > future back end.
> >
> > There is an issue for bundling a Solr instance with Nutch which we can
> > configure to our data. With VelocityResponseWriter we can make an
> > interface available, instantly. Quite useful for testing since we now
> > have to do everything by hand.
> >
> > By the way, i'd appreciate a 1.4 in Jira after the coming release. There
> > are some new features i'd love see it incorporated, perhaps a bundles
> > Solr instance with a preconfigured and useful interface ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >> Hi Gabriele,
> >>
> >> I would have loved to have done this myself but haven't had the time. I
> >> also favored having a web interface still included as well.
> >>
> >> If you find time to port it to the 1.3 branch/framework I can tell you
> >> I'd happily devote my time towards a 1.4 release that includes it.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On May 2, 2011, at 10:54 AM, Gabriele Kahlout wrote:
> >>> The reason I'm asking is because I had found the nutch webapp pretty
> >>> neet for a prototype interface (it even did highlighting).
> >>> I'm thinking of changing it so that it pulls the data from solr index,
> >>> updating this part in search.jsp:
> >>>
> >>> // perform query
> >>>
> >>> // NOTE by Dawid Weiss:
> >>> // The 'clustering' window actually moves with the start
> >>> // position.... this is good, bad?... ugly?....
> >>>
> >>> Hits hits;
> >>> try{
> >>>
> >>> query.getParams().initFrom(start + hitsToRetrieve, hitsPerSite,
> >>>
> >>> "site", sort, reverse);
> >>>
> >>> hits = bean.search(query);
> >>>
> >>> } catch (IOException e){
> >>>
> >>> hits = new Hits(0,new Hit[0]);
> >>>
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> Has someone gone through that already? Are there other alternatives you
> >>> have taken? I stumbled upon (w/o stumbledupon.com)
> >>> http://evolvingweb.github.com/ajax-solr/examples/reuters/index.html
> >>> which is quite sophisticated and doesn't do the highlighting!
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Markus Jelsma
> >
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>>> Yes. It was removed. Indexing and searching is delegated to Solr for
> >>>> now.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Monday 02 May 2011 16:41:32 Gabriele Kahlout wrote:
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Some time ago I was trying to use nutch/search.jsp to search my Solr
> >>>>> indexes. Trying to do that again I've noticed that in nutch-1.3 there
> >>>>> is
> >>>>
> >>>> no
> >>>>
> >>>>> support for a Nutch web querying interface (presumably in favor of
> >>>>> solr's own). Is it?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Markus Jelsma - CTO - Openindex
> >>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/markus17
> >>>> 050-8536620 / 06-50258350
> >>
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>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: [email protected]
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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