On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:14 PM Xiang Xiao <xiaoxiang781...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 8:41 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis
> <acas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Xiang,
> >
> > On 5/22/20, Xiang Xiao <xiaoxiang781...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > sic
> > >
> > > But mbedtls can be used in more context than HTTPS/TLS like security
> > > boot, OTA and TEE, it doesn't make sense to put into netutils. A
> > > central folder(e.g. external) for 3rd party is a better choice
> > > because:
> >
> > The external folder is used for other purpose (to test user own code).
> > Not it is even in the .gitignore.
> > And since the code will be there already, it is better to keep the way
> > NuttX already to it for external application.
> >
>
> We don't need put Makefile/Kconfig into apps/external directly. Like
> Chao's suggestion, we can create a new apache-nuttx-external git to
> manage the porting. People can link apps/external to
> apache-nuttx-external or their own version.

i guess a user often want to use apache-nuttx-external AND his own version.
while you can always workaround it with symbolic links, i wonder if it could
be more straightforward to use multiple "external" repos.

>
> > > 1.New user can find what already provide by NuttX quickly before start
> > > porting
> >
> > Normally new users will look inside menuconfig before looking the
> > code, so it is not an appealing reason.
> >
>
> Even with menuconfig, user need dig into several level to find, e.g.:
> Application Configuration->Grahpics Support->Littlev Graphic Libray(LVGL)
> Considering we have more than 1000 Kconfig options, the new user is
> hard to find the library he/she want from Kconfig quickly.
>
> > > 2.Help PMC check LICENSE file reflect the truth
> >
> > It doesn't better since the code is not distributed inside NuttX.
> >
> > > 3.Follow other project practice
> > >
> >
> > Hmm, so I think I didn't get it correctly from start. Maybe your idea
> > is to keep the complete code inside an apps/external or
> > apps/thirdparty folder, is it?
>
> No, just Makefile/Kconfig, but we need a system way to layout 3rd
> party library if you consider how to find them quickly after we port
> 100+ libraries which  very likely happen after one or two years.
>
> > If this is the idea, maybe in this case other option is to have an
> > apps-external or thirdparty repository to avoid the apps/ repository
> > becoming too big with code from external projects.
> >
>
> It's very important to have a common place to share the 3rd party
> library support. Many user select one RTOS just because it support the
> library he/she want to use in box. We need catch up here to compete
> with other RTOS.
>
> > >> > 4. how do you think about adding tls support to netutils/webclient?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I think it is better to create the mbedtls as a separated "library"
> > >> (note the quotes) instead of mixing it directly inside webclient,
> > >> because it could make it easier to users to use mbedtls on their web
> > >> applications. But, of course, it should be nice to have an option to
> > >> compile the webclient with the mbedtls "library" support. There are
> > >> some examples of "libraries" and applications on NuttX apps, i.e.:
> > >> gpsutils/minmea/minmea.c and an application using it: examples/gps.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yes, mbedtls is better to integrate as a library, and then any builtin
> > > or 3rd party apps can utilize it.
> > >
> >
> > I suppose this is the way you did at Xiaomi, right?
> >
> > BR,
> >
> > Alan

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