A focused effort to do the IP clearing sounds good. If we can get funding
to do it quicker, that would be great too. It's a good idea.

I did the stats that are on the wiki page for the 9.0 release. I'll see if
I can run this process on the rest of the project and post the numbers to
the wiki. I'll update this thread when I have some results. I'll also see
if I can make PR with the scripts Brennan and I were using so that the
tools can be in the main repo and anyone can use them.

-adam

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 8:39 PM 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> wrote:

> OK, there is a sub page, about the status of a module at March
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/Analysis+March+2020
>
> Let's try to do this on the whole project to get some numbers?
>
> Thanks.
>
> 张铎(Duo Zhang) <palomino...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月27日周一 上午11:32写道:
>
> > IMO we should at least have some numbers about the current status first,
> > i.e, how many files can be cleared directly, how many can not, etc.
> >
> > With the numbers in hand, then we can decide whether it is possible for
> us
> > to finish the work, and how to finish the work. Even if we want to reach
> > out for help from a 3rd party, we still need these numbers so we can
> decide
> > how much money we should pay...
> >
> > What I can see on the wiki page
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/License+Clearing
> >
> >  is just a rough plan, there are no numbers about the current status yet.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> 于2020年7月27日周一 上午10:43写道:
> >
> >> We have talked a little about IP clearance on the NuttX podling project
> >> but I am not sure if anyone really appreciates the magnitude of this
> >> effort:  There is 13 years of commits, possibly 50,000 total commits,
> >> many hundreds of contributors, 1000's of files, 1.5 million lines of
> >> code, and transitions through 3 different configuration management
> >> systems.  There is no contact information for the majority of the
> >> contributors and there is no reason to believe that all contributors
> >> will be cooperative.
> >>
> >> I think that anyone who believes that this can be done properly with the
> >> part time, now-and-then effort of a couple of people is sorely
> >> mistaken.  I think it will require a fully dedicated, team with some
> >> specialized expertise and a substantial amount of time to do.
> >>
> >> The only way that I can conceive of this happening is if we were to
> >> contract a 3rd party software CM/QA/IV&V house to to do the job.  That
> >> would, of course require a serious investment of money.  I am wondering
> >> if we could motivate some corporate sponsors to fund such an effort.  I
> >> appreciate that that is a long shot but we should consider it.  In the
> >> past, Xiaomi, for example, as committed to supporting the licensing/IP
> >> clearance effort.  But I don't think that anyone really appreciated the
> >> effort required at that time.
> >>
> >> We do have to make this happen and I don't blame anyone on the PPMC for
> >> not wanting to take this on.  It would cost you the next year of your
> >> life .. full time.  I wouldn't make that commitment and I would not
> >> expect any other individual to do so either.
> >>
> >> We some need a plan.  With no plan, the project will not graduate.  Even
> >> with a plan in hand, I would not expect graduation to be possible within
> >> the next year or more.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >>
> >>
>


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Adam Feuer <a...@starcat.io>

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