Dear Greg,

Thank you very much for your kind response, valuable warnings and suggestions. 
I see a very good road-map in your answer. On the other hand I ( probably 
together with Alan and somebody else interested in participating us) will 
appreciate all other comments and suggestions.

Best regards,
Murat  

On 2021/04/15 20:40:32, Gregory Nutt <spudan...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Before you start writing code, I think you should talk with the group 
> about the architecture that you would develop.
> 
> One of the essential, unbend-able rules is that any new development must 
> not add new operating system interfaces that are not standard, not 
> documented at OpenGroup.org, or are not supported by Linux.  New logic 
> can use, for examples, standard character driver interfaces, a BSD 
> socket interface, or the file system, but no made up interfaces and no 
> direct calls into non-standard OS functions.
> 
> I don't know much about DALI other than having scanned some websites.  
> My recommendation is that you consider this as a user-space library like 
> apps/modbus, perhaps at apps/dali.  The actual, low-level hardware 
> interface could be implemented, say, via a character driver known to the 
> apps/dali logic.  The user, application interface could then be purely 
> of you choosing and exported via a header file at apps/include/dali/dali.h
> 
> The dali drivers would go at nuttx/drivers/dali (probably) and the 
> interface (IOCTL commands and internal OS setup interfaces) might go in 
> nuttx/include/nuttx/drivers/dali.h.
> 
> Does that make sense?  In any case, let's get concurrence on the 
> interfaces before starting code development.  That will save a lot of 
> problems down the road and will probably also engage more people, get a 
> good review of the design, and might recruit people help you with the job.
> 
> Greg
> 
> On 4/15/2021 9:43 AM, murat tologlu wrote:
> > Hi Alan,
> > I am glad to hear that you found my proposal as a nice feature for Nuttx to 
> > have. I see you have made a good intruction; let me add something: Yes, 
> > DALI interface standard has DALI and DALI2 versions. DALI2 version was also 
> > extended with a feature set named as D4i. Therefore we have to cover all. 
> > Pysical layer is very simple, we can use any of ST STEVAL-ILM001V1 and 
> > Mikroe DALI 2 Click, or we can make our own hardware  interface for our 
> > tests, no problem. Manchester encoding is also very simple, as the and 
> > since the clodck frequency is very low we can implement it by software with 
> > register operations without using any special counter therefore we can 
> > easily obtain portability of our code.
> > In this work what I can do is, I can get all the information required such 
> > as IEC62386 standard and others, I can order all the required hardware, I 
> > can setup the hardware and I can do necessary tests. I can also participate 
> > implementing these in Nuttx codebase as much as I can with your help. So, 
> > let's get started, cd nuttxspace/nuttx make distclean :)
> >
> > On 2021/04/14 14:11:09, Alan Carvalho de Assis <acas...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Murat,
> >>
> >> I think DALI support should be a nice feature to have!
> >>
> >> Well, I already search for this protocol some time ago, but I don't
> >> know much about it yet.
> >>
> >> The protocol uses Manchester encoding, maybe driver interface should
> >> be implemented using GPIO and freerunning timer. Suggestions are
> >> welcome!
> >>
> >> For HW I think we have two options: ST STEVAL-ILM001V1 and Mikroe DALI 2 
> >> Click.
> >>
> >> It seams there are two protocol version: DALI and DALI 2. Probably
> >> those DALI dimmers on Aliexpress are pretty old DALI protocol.
> >>
> >> BR,
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> On 4/14/21, murat toloğlu <mtolo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I would very much like the DALI interface to be in Nuttx and I would like 
> >>> to
> >>> learn your opinions on this issue. My knowledge and experience in Nuttx is
> >>> not enough to do this work alone, but if we get a few people together, I 
> >>> can
> >>> participate in the development work.
> >>>
> 

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