Hi Nathan,

Do you have some other idea?

"Just add another symbol" is not a good idea.

We are going to pass Linux kernel Kconfig is one day or two :-)

I think we need to simplify our Kconfig, not to make each more complex
every single day.

BR,

Alan

On 11/4/22, Nathan Hartman <hartman.nat...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 4:06 PM Nathan Hartman <hartman.nat...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:12 PM Carlos Sanchez
>> <carlossanc...@geotab.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> It is exactly the same issue, I should have checked there, apologies for
>>> duplicating. Shall we continue the discussion there?
>>>
>>> In any case, I do not think it is such an uncommon scenario...  We have
>>> hit
>>> it in our application (that is why we saw it). I mostly agree with the
>>> OP
>>> of the original bug report, this is memory space and as such should be
>>> allocated somewhere in the memory map instead of assuming there is free
>>> space after BSS.
>>>
>>> I *can* easily produce a patch for armv[678]-m (I have it already
>>> implemented as a local patch in my Nuttx copy) and I have updated my
>>> linker
>>> script (same way as I updated QEMU test one). I can also patch all the
>>> obvious ld files for other armv[678]-m targets. But I cannot test those
>>> (I
>>> do not have the HW) and I might miss some ld file... and the problem is
>>> that would render the build unusable (strictly speaking, a linker script
>>> change should not be necessary as the stack can be anywhere in the
>>> memory,
>>> but in other places of ARM-specific code it is assumed stack is
>>> contiguous
>>> to heap space).
>>>
>>> Shall I still prepare the patch? (Alan I know you already said but it
>>> will
>>> take a bit of time to go through all the ld files so I want to confirm
>>> before getting to it).
>>
>>
>>
>> I think this makes sense. Build-time is a much better time to discover
>> that your image won't fit than wondering why the board won't boot and
>> then
>> wasting time with debugging.
>>
>> It is even more important to detect things like this at build time
>> because
>> of automated testing like the pre-checks that run when PRs are opened.
>>
>> Please feel free to ping me when the PR is opened and I'll help
>> review/test it.
>>
>
>
> I just had a thought. The linker scripts really should be per-arch, not
> per-board, right?
>
> Then again, a particular board might have a special requirement that needs
> a custom linker script just for that board.
>
> So maybe it would make more sense to migrate all the linker scripts to be
> per-arch and add a Kconfig, e.g., a bool CONFIG_BOARD_LINKER_SCRIPT. If
> true, then the board needs to provide its own ld.script; if false, we use
> the default per-arch ld.script, and for most boards that should be
> adequate.
>
> If this is done, then fixes like Carlos is discussing would take much less
> work.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Cheers
> Nathan
>

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