Hi Chao,

For these two options:

*Option 1:*

spin_lock:                                   spin lock
spin_lock_nopreempt:                spin_lock + sched_lock
spin_lock_irqsave:                     spin lock + irqsave
spin_lock_irqsave_nopreempt:  spin_lock + irq save + sched_lock


*Option 2:*

spin_lock:                              spin lock + sched_lock
spin_lock_preempt:               spin_lock
spin_lock_irqsave:                spin lock + irq save +sched_lock
spin_lock_irqsave_preempt: spin_lock + irq save

>From the correctness level:
The Option2 is correct, because if you call sem_post()/syslog()/... within
spin_lock() will cause a system crash.

>From the performance level:
The Option2 has lower efficiency as you said in the NON-SMP case.

Then can we have a method that takes both ?
Based on option1, we add a check if someone called sem_post()/syslog()...
then system ASSERT. Alert the people who should change their usage.
And also the performance will be considered.

BRs,
ligd

chao an <magicd...@gmail.com> 于2025年2月5日周三 19:34写道:

> I do not agree with the revert related changes. Local locks are very
> helpful for system real-time performance. I just have some suggestions on
> API semantics.
>
> Changes of kernel API semantics need to be carefully considered, especially
> if these functions will be used by individual developers and projects. The
> new semantics should be named with a new API to minimize the impact.
>
> BRs,
>
> hujun260 <hujun...@163.com> 于2025年2月5日周三 19:19写道:
>
> > I reverted the relevant changes.
> >
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/15767
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 2025-02-05 13:06:29, "chao an" <magicd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >The behavior of spin_lock needs everyone's advice
> > >
> > >After PR14578 <https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/14578> was merged
> > into
> > >the NuttX, the behavior of spin_lock() and spin_lock_irqsave() added the
> > >feature of disable the preemption:
> > >
> > >https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/14578
> > >
> > >The spin lock behavior changed from:
> > >
> > >
> > >*spin_lock: spin lockspin_lock_irqsave: spin lock + irqsave*
> > >
> > >to:
> > >
> > >
> > >*spin_lock: spin lock + sched_lockspin_lock_irqsave: spin lock +
> irqsave +
> > >sched_lock*
> > >
> > >This change has two key issues
> > >1. *Crash*: Since spin_lock depends on sched_lock, the code using this
> > type
> > >of API needs to re-evaluate the scope of impact, especially when tcb is
> > not
> > >initialized at the startup stage, sched_lock will cause crash
> > >
> > >https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/15728
> > >
> > >2. *Performance degradation*: spin_lock/spin_lock_irqsave is widely used
> > in
> > >the kernel, and more than 90% of the code protected by spin_lock will
> not
> > >cause context switching, so after the introduction of sched_lock, the
> > >kernel part has introduced new performance overhead
> > >
> > >https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/15684
> > >
> > >
> > >Due to the change in API semantics, we need to further optimize all the
> > >locations in the kernel that use spin_lock()/spin_lock_irqsave() to
> solve
> > >performance issue in evolution.
> > >In PR15705 <https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/15705>, Xiaoxiang had
> > some
> > >arguments about API naming with me.
> > >
> > >https://github.com/apache/nuttx/pull/15705
> > >
> > >My point of view is to restore the original behavior of spin_lock() and
> > >spin_lock_irqsave(), which brings the following benefits:
> > >1. The API semantics remain unchanged, and independent developers and
> > >projects that use these APIs outside the nuttx repository can keep their
> > >code without any adjustment
> > >2. The API naming is consistent with the internal implementation, and
> the
> > >caller can know what is happening inside the function from the API
> naming
> > >
> > >*Option 1:*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >*spin_lock:                   spin lockspin_lock_nopreempt:
> > >spin_lock + sched_lockspin_lock_irqsave:           spin lock + irq
> > >savespin_lock_irqsave_nopreempt: spin_lock + irq save + sched_lock*
> > >
> > >@xiaoxiang suggested changing the semantics of the API to hold
> sched_lock
> > >by default, consistent with Linux:
> > >1. This means that all locations in the kernel that call spin_lock and
> > >spin_lock_irqsave need to be changed
> > >spin_lock_irqsave -> spin_lock_irqsave_preempt
> > >2. It is impossible to know what happens inside the function from the
> API
> > >naming
> > >
> > >*Option 2:*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >*spin_lock:                 spin lock + sched_lockspin_lock_preempt:
> > >  spin_lockspin_lock_irqsave:         spin lock + irq save +
> > >sched_lockspin_lock_irqsave_preempt: spin_lock + irq save*
> > >
> > >I don't know which definition is better, or if any wise person has a
> > better
> > >choice, please give some advice.
> >
>

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