Thanks Alex for detailed info. Well it seems I have underestimated this whole Ruby thing, so I'll have to check it out in more detail, ~5k lines less is amazing =).
Cheers On Jan 30, 2008 10:00 PM, Alex Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/30/08, xenHalfLife <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Not trying to start flame war, but why did you guys for the love of god > > choose Ruby/Rake as build tool =). > > > 1) We didn't like the verbosity of Ant/Maven1/Maven2; we actually went > from > 5,443 lines of Maven2 XML over 52 files, into a single build script of 485 > lines. > 2) We tried really, really hard with Maven2. First, it was hard to do > simple things. Second, our build was in constant breakage. > 3) We like Ruby; We're not Java zealots and we believe Ruby is the best > tool for the job. > > (Sorry if I borrowed the royal "we" for an instant) > > > On the more serious note do you guys have any plans to perhaps switch > build > > process to some standard (Maven et al), > > I know its the matter of preference but I thought Apache projects are > > required to use some standards, including ones > > for build process. > > > Buildr is now an Apache project and we hope more projects adopt it because > we strongly believe it waaaay better. (Whooops here goes the royalty > again!) > > > To have to download Ruby, and to have to learn perhaps another language in > > order to develop some kind of build process > > plugin that is specific to BPEL/ODE does not seem "pleasent". > > > There's nothing specific to Ode/BPEL in Buildr. If you learn Buildr, > you'll be able to use it in other projects and you'll probably save > yourself > some time and frustration. Not to mention that learning a new language > and > new tools open horizons... > > > Actually I considered some contributions to ODE but when I saw Ruby > > requirement, oo dear, Im out =). > > > Well, you're in luck because we already took care of the build issues so > you > can concentrate on the Java part. Simply type "buildr eclipse", launch > Eclipse and you won't have to use much of Buildr if you don't want to. > (Or > your favorite IDE) > > > Anyway, ODE seems really good keep up the good work. > > > Thanks :) Let us know if you need any help installing Ruby, Rake, and > Buildr. It's real easy. > http://incubator.apache.org/buildr/getting_started.html > > alex >
