On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Simon D Moser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Matthieu,
>
> thanks for the offer. However, you will be happy to find out that one of
> your ODE committers, Tammo van Lessen, has been working with me on that
> integration. Thus, as a team, we were able to figure out most questions for
> the corresponding side ;-)
>

Yeah, Tammo told me that a few months ago. Just wanted to reiterate for good
measure :) Also Tammo always does an awesome job but he only has two hands
(although I've never met him yet, so he could actually have three), so a
little bit of backing never hurts.

Anyway, really nice to see your progress.

Cheers,
Matthieu


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> Cheers
> Simon
>
> Simon Moser, M.Eng.
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>   From:       "Matthieu Riou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>  To:         "BPEL Designer project developer discussions." <
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>  Date:       29.05.2008 18:18
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>  Subject:    [bpel-dev] Collaboration with Apache ODE [WAS: Re: Feedbacks]
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> Hi,
>
> I'm taking this opportunity to uncloak and propose some help :) If you need
> more information on how to better integrate with the ODE compiler or deploy
> processes, feel free to ask on dev@ode.apache.org, we'll be happy to help,
> provide some code examples or pointers to existing code. Also if you're
> experiencing issues with the ODE compiler or runtime, we can discuss what
> could be improved.
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> In any case, we're happy to collaborate :)
>
> Cheers,
> Matthieu
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> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Simon D Moser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Hi Pierre,
>
>  the charter of the project basically requires us to show a "reference
>  runtime integration". Now since this is a multi-party project, we sort of
>  agreed on the fact that we will show that "reference runtime" to be
>  Apache
>  ODE. Having said that, there has been works in the past by Bruno
>  Wassermann
>  in London who wrote an integration to the ActiveBPEL engine. This
>  basically
>  means: there is a common runtime integration framework that is part of
>  the
>  official project. Then there is an ActiveBPEL integration  (which is not
>  part of the official project), an Apache ODE integration (which is not
>  complete yet, but will be an official part of the project), and obviously
>  you can write an integration for Orchestra (again, probably not part of
>  the
>  official project).
>
>  "Official part" here means that we won't package and ship the plugins as
>  part of a BPEL Designer Release.
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>  As for you last question - how to become a committer: This is the
>  standard
>  eclipse procedure. This means: You fix bugs (e.g. by attaching patches to
>  bugzilla) or you make code contributions to the project, and then one
>  existing committer can initiate a nomination process. If then a majority
>  of
>  the existing committers agree the person gets the committer status. In
>  other words: You have to prove your talent first before you can become a
>  committer ;-)
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>  Cheers
>  Simon
>
>  Simon Moser, M.Eng.
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>   From:       Pierre Vigneras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>   To:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   Date:       27.05.2008 15:52
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>   Subject:    Re: [bpel-dev] Feedbacks
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>  Le Monday 19 May 2008 18:00:27 [EMAIL PROTECTED], vous avez
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>  > Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:48:19 +0200
>  > From: Simon D Moser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > Subject: Re: [bpel-dev] Feedbacks
>  > To: "BPEL Designer project developer discussions."
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>  > Hello Pierre,
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>  > welcome! Let me try to answer your questions:
>
>  Sorry for the delay...
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>  > Re 1.) The correlation bug, I think, is not fixed. I just tried the
>  > If-Elseif-issue on the trunk and IMHO this is correct. We are still on
>  CVS
>  > rather than SVN ;-)
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>  Ok. CVS is also fine for us, its open-source! ;-)
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>  > In the Trunk, you can also add a FaultHandler to the Process. Give it a
>  try
>  > please ;-)
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>  I am currently downloading all the required libraries in a separate fresh
>  Eclipse development environment...
>  I will give it  a try.
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>  > Re 2.) As currently stated, the BPEL Designer is about to Release M4
>  (last
>  > missing piece is a runtime integration).
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>  Well, what do you mean by runtime integration? We have an open-source
>  BPEL
>  engine
>  Orchestra (see: http://orchestra.objectweb.org/). It would be great if
>  the
>  BPEL editor can integrate
>  smoothly with our BPEL engine. This is definitely one area where we can
>  provide help and support.
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>  Tell us what is missing, and if Orchestra can be an integration target.
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>  > Re 3.) You certainly can access the cvs "trunk" (its called HEAD
>  there;-)
>  > ;-) http://www.eclipse.org/bpel/install.php - step 3 gives you the
>  > necessary data.
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>  Done. Thanks.
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>  > Re 4.) Absolutely. Any particular piece you are interested on to work
>  on
>  ?
>
>  Well, runtime integration with Orchestra is definitely an interesting
>  point
>  for us.
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>  > I mean there are a few bugs that need to be addressed (one could just
>  > provide patches), but also in case you want to do some functional
>  > enhancement - feel free to propose it. Feel free to contact me to
>  engage
>  in
>  > further discussions on the "how".
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>  Can we gain a committer access? How? What is the  procedure?
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>  Regards.
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