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Enrico Levesque edited comment on ODE-483 at 8/31/09 1:58 PM: -------------------------------------------------------------- I'm a graduate student in computer science and we've been thinking a bit on this issue of migrating process instances. We've published an article on the subject in 2008 (http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1397774). Although it was only the beginning of our thinking, we did came up with a sort of a replay for solution. We added the complexity of having to migrate also the collaborating processes, that's why we saw the replay as a possible solution, with the idea of a synchronization with the other processes. We were looking for an engine to use to implement our approach and when I saw this Replayer I thought it would be good to give it a try for a start. I applied the patch and tried it out on my own processes. It didn't work right away, I had to fix the getCurrentEventDateTime in BpelRuntimeContextImpl so that I could use getCommunication on my own processes. I have another problem when I try to replay an incoming message that is suppose to be associated with the instance through correlation. I noticed that it doesn't find the routing info for the instance while it's looking into the database. Do you have any idea of what could cause the problem? was (Author: enricolds): I'm a graduate student in computer science and we've been thinking a bit on this issue of migrating process instances. We've published an article on the subject in 2008 (http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1397774). Although it was only the beginning of our thinking, we did came up with a sort of a replay for solution. We added the complexity of having to migrate also the collaborating processes, that's why we saw the replay as a possible solution, with the idea of a synchronization with the other processes. This summer I was looking for an engine to work with and I saw that ODE came with some functionality to suspend instances for migration. I started to look up on migration in the forums, I followed some of the discussions on the subject and I was directed to this Replayer of yours. I was very delighted to see that the idea of replaying the exchanges between processes was thought of something worth to try. It's not an easy thing to achieve, I agree with the comments on the subject that it's probably not a task to fully automatize, but there are some things we can automatize. Anyhow, I applied the patch and tried it out on my own processes. It didn't work right away, I had to fix the getCurrentEventDateTime in BpelRuntimeContextImpl so that I could use getCommunication on my own processes. I have another problem when I try to replay an incoming message that is suppose to be associated with the instance through correlation. I noticed that it doesn't find the routing info for the instance while it's looking into the database. Do you have any idea of what could cause the problem? > Instance replayer > ----------------- > > Key: ODE-483 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ODE-483 > Project: ODE > Issue Type: New Feature > Affects Versions: Wishlist > Reporter: Rafal Rusin > Fix For: Wishlist > > Attachments: Khriss-AdaptabilitySupport.pdf, replayer-example.zip, > replayer-proposal.diff > > > Imagine situation when client has deployed a process with a lot of active, > long running instances. Then he finds there's a bug in this process and a > simple bugfix is needed. But with current versioning rules, new version is > only used when new instances are created. So there's no simple way for doing > such bufixes (which are usually possible with eg. java application using > database connection). It is a blocking argument for deploying ODE Bpel > solution instead of a regular java application. > I think the best way to deal with such situations is to add > serialize/deserialize to/from xml operations for process instances in > management API. Also pause/resume ODE operations would be useful. > Then, a bugfix procedure would look like this; > -pause ode > -serialize instances > -deploy newer version > -deserialize instances and fix manually any import errors > -resume ODE > It would also be a benefit of being able to do migration from older to newer > ODE and between Hibernate/JPA DAOs, which I saw already in some bug reports. > What do you think about it? > Regards -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online.