It seems that Adrian has good pros deletion arguments, any cons ?

Jacques

De : "Adrian Crum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The FtlTransform.java file duplicates the old code in FreeMarkerWorker.java - 
> therefore anyone
> wanting to use it can simply use FreeMarkerWorker.java instead.
>
> The drawback to keeping it in the project is that someone may want to use it 
> - which would be a bad
> thing because it duplicates the mistakes that were made in the old 
> FreeMarkerWorker file, PLUS it
> keeps its own template cache - which introduces the possibility of having two 
> copies of the same
> template cached.
>
> -Adrian
>
> Scott Gray wrote:
> > I'm with Jacopo on this one, if it's not causing any harm we should leave it
> > in until it is.
> >
> > Regards
> > Scott
> >
> > On 13/08/07, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Jacques,
> >>
> >>yes, I understand your point and in some way I agree with you about
> >>having a lighter framework could have some advantages; the issue, in my
> >>opinion, is: if it is a working tool, even if no more used by the
> >>official OFBiz applications, how can we be sure that no one is currently
> >>using it?
> >>I'm not saying that we should care about "extarnal" usage too much
> >>(especially if keeping up-to-date an old feature would be too expensive
> >>for the project) but, for framework features like this one, we should
> >>not be too aggressive
> >>
> >>My 2 cents
> >>
> >>Jacopo
> >>
> >>Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>
> >>>Jacopo,
> >>>
> >>>As it is not used I suggest, as proposed by Adrian, to get rid of it. If
> >>
> >>anybody, for any reasons, needs to revive it; he/her will
> >>
> >>>be able to use Fisheye which I hope will soon be available for OFBiz
> >>
> >>repository.
> >>
> >>>Thanks
> >>>
> >>>Jacques
> >>>
> >>>----- Message d'origine -----
> >>>De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>À : <[email protected]>
> >>>Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2007 06:50
> >>>Objet : Re: svn commit: r564531 - in /ofbiz/branches/release4.0:
> >>
> >>applications/content/src/org/ofbiz/content/data/
> >>
> >>>applications/content/src/org/ofbiz/content/survey/
> >>
> >>framework/base/src/base/org/ofbiz/base/util/template/
> >>
> >>>framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtoo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I don't know... until now the common practice for things like this has
> >>>>been to keep the tools in the framework even if they are old, if they
> >>>>don't interfere with newer ones and if the cost to keep them updated is
> >>>>not too high.
> >>>>
> >>>>Jacopo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Not sure this one reached the ML
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jacques
> >>>>>
> >>>>>----- Message d'origine -----
> >>>>>De : "Jacques Le Roux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>À : <[email protected]>
> >>>>>Envoyé : samedi 11 août 2007 13:10
> >>>>>Objet : Re: svn commit: r564531 - in /ofbiz/branches/release4.0:
> >>
> >>applications/content/src/org/ofbiz/content/data/
> >>
> >>>>>applications/content/src/org/ofbiz/content/survey/
> >>
> >>framework/base/src/base/org/ofbiz/base/util/template/
> >>
> >>>>>framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtoo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I confirm that there are no uses of this class. If nobody complain I
> >>
> >>will remove this file soon (trunk & release)
> >>
> >>>>>>Jacques
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>De : "Adrian Crum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>By the way, we can remove the FtlTransform.java file - it isn't
> >>
> >>being used and I strongly discourage
> >>
> >>>>>>>its use.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>-Adrian
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Scott, Jacopo,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I understand your concerns. Anyway if I have to revert from trunk I
> >>
> >>will revert from release too. IMHO it's surer to revert
> >>
> >>>>>both
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>>than to forget to merge to release. This is why I took this
> >>
> >>decision and also because it seems to me that these changes are
> >>
> >>>>>>safe.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>About ftl cache by default. Actually it is not disable totally,
> >>
> >>only cleared every  10 seconds by default to facilitate
> >>
> >>>>>>development.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>And yes, I tested with cache enabled (related cache.propertieslines 
> >>>>>>>>commented out). Actually I continue to test...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I was sure putting the magic letters CTR, I will get some comments
> >>
> >>;o)
> >>
> >>>>>>>>Jacques
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>----- Message d'origine -----
> >>>>>>>>De : "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>>>>À : <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>Envoyé : vendredi 10 août 2007 12:14
> >>>>>>>>Objet : Re: svn commit: r564531 - in /ofbiz/branches/release4.0:
> >>
> >>applications/content/src/org/ofbiz/content/data/
> >>
> >>>>>>>>applications/content/src/org/ofbiz/content/survey/
> >>
> >>framework/base/src/base/org/ofbiz/base/util/template/
> >>
> >>>>>>>>framework/webtools/src/org/ofbiz/webtoo
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Yes,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>I agree with Scott here.
> >>>>>>>>>And about this specific commit: Jacques, did you test it with ftl
> >>
> >>cache
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>enabled? I'm asking you this because, by default, if I'm not
> >>
> >>wrong,cache
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>for ftl files is disabled...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Jacopo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Hi Jacques
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>While I have no idea about this specific commit, I'm a big -1 for
> >>
> >>a CTR
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>approach when it comes to the release branch.  I think if your
> >>
> >>committing a
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>CTR fix to the trunk then we should at least wait a week or two
> >>
> >>before
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>putting it into the release.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>It's great to get fixes into the branch, but we need to do our
> >>
> >>utmost not to
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>>introduce new bugs in the process.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>Scott
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>On 10/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>Author: jleroux
> >>>>>>>>>>>Date: Fri Aug 10 02:52:26 2007
> >>>>>>>>>>>New Revision: 564531
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=564531
> >>>>>>>>>>>Log:
> >>>>>>>>>>>Applied fix from trunk for revision: 564530
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >

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