Jacques,

When you have a few minutes, please take a look at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-1349 - that should eliminate any future confusion.

-Adrian

Jacques Le Roux wrote:

I commited the patch and I should have read 
http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/security.php before (though I have 
surely read
and forgot). Sorry for that

Thanks to Jacopo for having catched it and, to all participants for the 
explanations I got from this thread !

Jacques

De : "Adrian Crum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


The current SVN is doing an AND on the base-permission list.

To recap: I added the ADMIN permission check to the main application bar logic. 
When I did that I
also changed the logic to OR the base-permission list - based upon my 
misunderstanding of the usage
of the base-permission list. Jacopo caught that and changed it back to ANDing 
the base-permission list.

At any rate, the discussion has been informative. David - thanks again for your 
input!


David E Jones wrote:


I haven't reviewed the patch, but just to make sure we're all on the
same page: it is doing an AND, right?

In other words it requires all permissions in the list, not allowing
just any?

Personally I don't think either AND or OR is implied by the attribute
or it's usage, just a matter of what is most useful and then perhaps
documenting it with an annotation in the XSD file or something, and I
think based on the discussions I remember (I don't remember who
implemented that though, perhaps Andrew Z.) we decided AND would be
more useful.

-David


On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Yes, your patch is correct. Thanks for catching that!

Jacopo Cappellato wrote:


So, at the end of the story... is my last patch correct, right?
Sorry, but I'm a bit tired today and I'm getting a bit dumb.
Jacopo
Adrian Crum wrote:


David,

Thanks for your input!

Si makes a good point about permissions that have unexpected side-
effects. Let's say you're using some of the Party Manager screens
in a custom app. Inside those screens are permission checks for  the
PARTYMGR_VIEW permission, so you give that permission to your
custom app users. Oops, now they have access to the Party Manager
application. By ANDing the base-permission list, if they don't  have
the OFBTOOLS permission, then the Party Manager application  doesn't
appear.

The OFBTOOLS permission idea solves the problem. It just seems
counter-intuitive in the base-permission list.

-Adrian

David E Jones wrote:


Not sure where Si got his notes, but I think what you are  writing
is  correct Adrian.

If I remember right from the initial discussions around this  the
point was to be able to add on other applications and have  more
control over which a user can see, the common scenario  being that
you  would want to be able to setup a user that could  see the
add-on  application (even though it does have a security
permission), but not  the base ofbiz applications. With that you
could just not include the  OFBTOOLS permission in your add-on
application and off you go...

-David


On Oct 17, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:


Jacopo,

Doing a Google search, I found these notes from Si:

http://www.opensourcestrategies.com/ofbiz/security.php

According to Si, the list of base permissions should be ANDed,
not  ORed. I don't know the reasoning for that, however.

-Adrian

Jacopo Cappellato wrote:


Adrian,
I think that you could be right.
I'm not sure I understand the meaning of the OFBTOOLS
permission,  but I don't think it was intended as the base
permission for the  Webtools application... but I could be wrong.
Any hints from others?
Jacopo
Adrian Crum wrote:


Jacopo,

How was the original logic incorrect? The original logic was  this:

For each application:
 Permission to use the application defaults to false
 If the user has one of the permissions in the  application's
base-permission list,
   OR if the base-permission list contains "NONE", then
permission to use
   the application is true

The reason all of the applications became visible to a user
with  the OFBTOOLS permission is because all of the
applications have  the OFBTOOLS permission in their base-
permission list.

My understanding is that the OFBTOOLS permission was intended
to  grant access to the Webtools application. I don't know  why
it has  been included in every other application.

-Adrian





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