Ahh, so you just decided to ignore my input?

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 3:28 PM Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Do we need a vote here to decide if we should ask infra or not?
>
> Else I'll tomorrow consider the last exchange with Scott 2 weeks ago a
> lazy consensus and will simply replace using
>
>      -    compile 'com.lowagie:itext:4.2.0'
>      +   compile 'com.lowagie:itext:2.1.7' // don't update because of
> license issue. The BIRT runtime package still uses the same for the same
> reason
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
>
> Le 15/06/2018 à 09:07, Jacques Le Roux a écrit :
> > Le 14/06/2018 à 21:43, Scott Gray a écrit :
> >> Are there any genuine doubts about 2.1.7? Or just a warning from the
> >> company trying to sell the AGL licensed versions?
> >>
> >> If we revert back to 2.1.7 then I don't think we need to ask legal
> anything.
> > Yes that's also my opinion after deeply checking. BIRT runtime is the
> proof, IMO.
> >
> > Jacques
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On 14 June 2018 at 18:56, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Le 14/06/2018 à 07:22, Scott Gray a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> My first inclination is that taking legal advice from a company that
> is
> >>>> trying to sell you a license, probably isn't a good idea. They have a
> >>>> vested interest in trying to convince you not to use the MIT version.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regardless, I think Taher's solution works in the short term
> >>>>
> >>> For that I think we need to ask Legal. Anyway better to ask them for
> both
> >>> versions (2.1.7 or 4.2.0)
> >>>
> >>> and the other
> >>>> alternative is to revert back to a 2.x version until a suitable
> >>>> replacement
> >>>> is found.
> >>>>
> >>> Why a replacement would be needed?
> >>>
> >>> Looking at the commit logs it hasn't been very long since we
> >>>> switched from 2.x to 4.x for no other reason than "let's update
> >>>> everything!".
> >>>>
> >>> Right, I believe using 2.1.7 is the way. We were using it until Oct 13
> >>> 2017, r1812161.
> >>> It's the same than in BIRT distributed runtime packages and I expect
> >>> Eclipse Legal team is aware. Certainly a reason why they never updated.
> >>>
> >>> So the question for our Legal could as simple as:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Eclipse BIRT distributes itext 2.1.7 in their runtime packages under
> >>> the EPL license.
> >>> 2. We want to use the same directly as a declared dependency
> >>> 3. But we wonder what to think about https://developers.itextpdf.co
> >>> m/question/versions-older-than-5
> >>>
> >>> @team: what do you think? I'd not even ask for 4.2.0 because I expect a
> >>> negative answer. But if you prefer we can add it.
> >>>
> >>> Should we say that we use the 2.1.7 version for years?
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Regards
> >>>> Scott
> >>>>
> >>>> On 14 June 2018 at 05:47, Jacques Le Roux <
> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jacopo,
> >>>>> Yes good idea. I'll try to write next week...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jacques
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Le 13/06/2018 à 08:14, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Jacques Le Roux <
> >>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course we need to ask the legal team before taking a formal
> decision
> >>>>>>> about it.
> >>>>>>> I think we have now enough material to ask, and without opposition
> I'll
> >>>>>>> create a LEGAL Jira in a week.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think it would be useful if you will post the draft of the text
> for
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Jira ticket to this list for community's review before submitting
> it to
> >>>>>> Legal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jacopo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
>
>

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