Hi Jacopo and Anil, Thank you, Jacopo, for raising these concerns, and thank you, Anil, for sharing your perspective. I completely understand and agree with the points discussed.
I have unlisted all the videos I recently published on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel. I will keep them unlisted for now and can delete them permanently later if needed. My intention was to demonstrate Apache OFBiz's compatibility with the latest AI coding tools to empower our developers, and I used the official channel to maximize reach. However, I agree this objective can be achieved by hosting them on a personal channel and sharing the links via the mailing list instead. I will use this feedback as a learning experience to ensure higher quality for future content. Thank you both for your dedication to the community. Best regards, Arun Patidar On Mon, Jul 6, 2026 at 3:51 PM Jacopo Cappellato < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Anil, > > Of course. I think any contributor, including companies such as HotWax > Systems, is welcome to create educational content and share it with > the community. > > Regarding a "Community Contributed Content" page, I would expect the > community to evaluate any proposal to include links to useful external > content, regardless of who produced it, provided that the page is > clearly presented as a collection of community resources and does not > appear to endorse any particular individual, company, or commercial > service. > > Best regards, > > Jacopo > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 9:44 AM Anil Patel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Jacopo, > > > > I have a question, > > > > If the content is posted on a YouTube channel owned by HotWax Systems, > will > > you allow us to link to that channel and its videos on the Community > > Contributed content page? > > > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Anil Patel > > CEO > > HotWax Systems > > http://www.hotwaxsystems.com > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 1:02 PM Arun Patidar <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Hi Jacopo, > > > > > > I have deleted the comment on the video that was accidentally posted > from > > > the project's official account and have now replied using my personal > > > account. I apologize for any inconvenience caused. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Arun Patidar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 12:13 PM Jacopo Cappellato < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Anil, > > > > > > > > I have to disagree with the idea that "something is better than > > > > nothing". In my view, quality matters, and creating educational > videos > > > > is not a mandatory activity for the project. If we currently do not > > > > have contributors with sufficient content creation skills, I think it > > > > is perfectly acceptable for the project not to publish official > videos > > > > until we do. > > > > > > > > I also hope we can reach a shared understanding of the minimum > quality > > > > standards expected for the project's official deliverables, > regardless > > > > of their form. > > > > > > > > That said, I am absolutely in favor of encouraging engineers to > > > > experiment with content creation and develop those skills. My > > > > suggestion would simply be to have those videos published from > > > > personal accounts or channels, and then shared with the community via > > > > the mailing list or perhaps a wiki page collecting community-created > > > > content. I don't think this would discourage contributors; on the > > > > contrary, it would give them the opportunity to experiment, receive > > > > feedback, and improve their skills without making every attempt an > > > > official project publication. > > > > > > > > To me there is an important distinction between sharing content > within > > > > the community and publishing content as the Apache OFBiz project. The > > > > latter represents the project itself and therefore deserves a higher > > > > level of review and quality. > > > > > > > > As another example of why I believe official communications deserve > > > > review, I am also uncomfortable with the official reply posted under > > > > one of the videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ByUvnGx5ws&t=26s > ), > > > > where the project appears to promote paid services from a third-party > > > > vendor. I think this illustrates that review should apply not only to > > > > the videos themselves, but more generally to content published > through > > > > the project's official communication channels. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Jacopo > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2026 at 7:40 AM Anil Patel < > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jacopo, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for raising this topic. I agree that as our official > YouTube > > > > > channel becomes a key resource for the community, maintaining a > > > > > professional presentation is important for the project's public > image. > > > > > > > > > > However, I have a slightly different perspective on the path to > > > achieving > > > > > that quality. > > > > > > > > > > We currently see very limited contributions in terms of tutorials > and > > > > > community content, and I am concerned that imposing strict > production > > > > > standards at this stage might inadvertently stifle the few > contributors > > > > we > > > > > do have. Many of our contributors are engineers, not content > creators > > > or > > > > > videographers, and expecting them to be both often leads to no > > > > contribution > > > > > at all. I believe that right now, "something is better than > nothing." > > > > > > > > > > Before we codify formal standards or guidelines, I think our > priority > > > > > should be enablement: > > > > > > > > > > 1. *Building a Toolkit:* We should focus on creating a simple, > > > > > "lightweight" toolkit—templates, basic editing guides, and > software > > > > > recommendations—that makes it easy for a developer to produce > decent > > > > > content without needing invent a process. > > > > > 2. *Leading by Example:* We need to identify 10 solid examples > of > > > > videos > > > > > published in the last few years that we consider "good." These > can > > > > serve as > > > > > the benchmarks for future contributors to follow, rather than > > > relying > > > > on a > > > > > rigid rulebook. > > > > > > > > > > Until we have such a toolkit and a more active pool of motivated > > > > > contributors, I would prefer we avoid implementing formal best > > > practices > > > > or > > > > > standards that discourage eager contributors trying new things. > Let’s > > > > focus > > > > > on making it easier for people to contribute and encourage them to > do > > > > their > > > > > best to help the community. > > > > > > > > > > I look forward to seeing how the community wants to approach this, > and > > > I > > > > am > > > > > happy to support a collaborative effort to define these kinds of > > > > resources. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > Anil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:28 AM Jacopo Cappellato < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to open a discussion about the content that is > published > > > > > > on the official Apache OFBiz YouTube channel. > > > > > > > > > > > > Some of the recently published videos contain useful technical > > > > > > information and can certainly benefit users and developers. > However, > > > I > > > > > > believe that content published through the project's official > > > > > > communication channels should also meet a certain standard in > terms > > > of > > > > > > presentation quality. This includes aspects such as audio > clarity, > > > > > > video quality, readability of the recorded screen, and the > overall > > > > > > structure of the presentation. The official Apache OFBiz channel > > > > > > represents the project to the broader public, including potential > > > > > > users, contributors, and organizations evaluating OFBiz. The > quality > > > > > > of the material published there contributes to the overall > perception > > > > > > of the project. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not suggesting creating unnecessary bureaucracy or > discouraging > > > > > > anyone from producing content. Rather, I believe a collaborative > > > > > > review process would help us publish material that best > represents > > > the > > > > > > project while also giving authors constructive feedback before > their > > > > > > work becomes part of the project's official communications. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would be interested in hearing the community's thoughts, as > well as > > > > > > any ideas for defining practical and lightweight guidelines. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Jacopo > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
