Hi Jacopo,

Yes I totally agree. Svn export should be enough. Actually I think I have overestimated my free time in this perspective. The test part may be long sometimes. I'm always too optimistic in the morning ;o). The same could be done for the release 4.0 and a tag put. Or even no tags and simply an update every month for both (weekly seems a bit too much isn'it) ? I could take care of that. Maybe we (the community) could even decide when to do it (slightly change the date) when some interesting changes have been done, or when some will come and we prefer to wait ?

The scenario then could be :
1. At every end of month I ask it it's ok to do it
2. If nobody think we should wait a bit I do it. Else a new date could be 
proposed by consensus.
3. Of course anybody could propose a date before the end of month if he/her think that we should better do it right now (Mmm ... tags could help here)

Jacques

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: People complaining about a real release


Hi Jacques,

actually, I was not talking about a new release... I was just suggesting to provide some sort of downloadable snapshot of the trunk.

Jacopo



On Jun 1, 2008, at 3:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hi Jacopo,

Thanks for comment, so I would like to try by following http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan for trunk and release. I would then put attachments to this page when all would be tested and ok (or maybe create a new specific child page for that). My
goal is to have something as easy as possible to reach, even for non- technical 
persons.

I'm afraid that at the moment there are some issues in trunk when running tests (run-tests). I did not test (run-tests) release for
a while. I suppose that I will need some efforts from the community.  I will 
let you know about that as soon as I will know.

BTW, do wee need tp keep this page 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Apache+OFBiz+Incubating+4.0.0+Test+Snapshot+Release
 for
historical reasons  ?

I remember suddenly that David has suggested recently that we work on the framework in order to have separated from applications.
Should we wait to be in such a state before engaging a release  effort ?

Any other suggestions/recommandations anyone ?

Thanks

Jacques

PS : Maybe I'm a bit optimistic about all that, so it will depend of  my free 
time...

From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
We already talked about this subject in the past...
in my opinion a very simple (to manage for the community) and   effective way 
of helping new users, with minimal technical
knowledge, that just want to quickly taste how OFBiz is setup in their pc, is to provide a weekly (or montly) zipped file of an
"svn export" (or a  bigger "svn checkout") of the trunk.

Jacopo

On Jun 1, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Hi All,

We begin to have more and more unpleasant comments like this one
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Demo+and+Test+Setup+Guide?focusedCommentId=4377#comment-4377
Should we not take them into account one day or another even if  our  build 
processes is so simple ?
Tough, maybe we could simply explain clearly in this page (and perhaps some other concerned) why we prefer to do it that way ?

Jacques




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