David,

Thanks for the info. I was looking at the field-group element yesterday but I wasn't sure how it was used. Your explanation helps.

I don't have a good example of using conditionals on groups of fields, but the menu widget would be a prime candidate. Think of the application menu and how groups of menu items are displayed depending on whether or not the user is logged in. There are other places where groups of menu items are dependent upon the user's permissions. Having one condition controlling the group would be better than having the same condition applied to every menu item.

-Adrian

David E Jones wrote:

In the form widget something similar to what you describe exists. After the field elements you can have a sort-order element which has a sort-field element in it for each field in the order you want it. Those sort-field elements can be put inside a field-group element, and the field-group element has the typical id and style attributes on it for CSS styling of a group of fields.

There are no conditions on the group, as conditions are on the individual fields right now, but we could add something as simple as a use-when attribute there or as complex as a condition element with the various conditional sub-elements under it like in a screen widget section. Unless we think those will be used a lot I like the idea of the use-when attribute more, BTW.

-David


On Jun 6, 2008, at 8:42 AM, Adrian Crum wrote:

I've been thinking about this and I'm wondering if we need a container element for the form and menu widgets, only have it operate more like the section element - so you can have conditionals.

That way you could group fields or menu items together, have the group displayed conditionally, and have them wrapped by the rendering classes so they can be updated by Ajax calls.

-Adrian

Anil Patel wrote:
thinking on same lines, We should have a set of input boxes that get rendered to meet formating requirements, like For phone number, I'll like to have a form widget that will render countryCode, areaCode, contactNumber input boxes in one row separated by some character like "-". Similarly Date field may be required to be rendered in some cases. Or Credit Card numbers etc.
Regards
Anil Patel
On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:07 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
Here is my wish list:

1) when you select a value from a drop down box, automatically enable a new drop down box for the selection of further data available after the first selection is done; for example: you select the country, then you have the option to select the state-province in the country

2) when, using a lookup button you select an id (e.g. productId) another field (or label) is automatically populated with the descriptive content of the id (productName etc...)

Jacopo

On Jun 3, 2008, at 3:35 AM, Anil Patel wrote:

I think we should Ajax/Effects enable widgets where possible. Like,

Make Panels collapsable using Effects,
Ajax enable Tree widget,
Enhance Single form Layout to use div and css,
Use Model panel for Lookup windows,
Allow display fields to be inline editable etc.

Regards
Anil Patel




On Jun 2, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

From: "Adrian Crum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Al Byers wrote:
I started a post to your reply that talked about what I would like to see and whatever, but as I got into it, I realized that this whole thing could get quite messy. As soon as you do anything that is "customer facing", I think you are going to lose people (like me) because what we do with widgets
could never approach what their specific toolkit can do.
Well, the discussion is about adding Ajax capabilities to the screen widgets - which aren't usually used in customer facing websites. I picture this effort as something simpler than the type of work you described. Let's add some bells and whistles to the screen widgets. The screen widget XML to do it shouldn't be overly complicated. In other words, add some fancy embellishments without a lot of extra coding.
I just think the work of trying to add some common features that can be supported by all tool kits will not be useful because it will never go far enough. And it will be a lot of work that will not add much advantage over just working in the toolkit (this is particularly true of Dojo since it has an XML markup language that lets me mix it with the widget environment
within .ftl files.)
There has been talk of doing that with Dojo and another XML based library (I can't remember the name - Jacopo mentioned it).

I suppose you tall about Apache XAP ?

Jacques
Thanks for the reply - I appreciate your input!
-Adrian





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