In case you missed my joke, the "strongly worded letter" remark was referencing the UN's inability to deal effectively with rogue nations. ;-)
-Adrian --- On Sat, 8/16/08, Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Jacopo Cappellato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: svn commit: r686301 - in /ofbiz/trunk/framework/webapp: > dtd/site-conf.xsd src/org/ofbiz/webapp/control/ConfigXMLReader.java > src/org/ofbiz/webapp/control/RequestHandler.java > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, August 16, 2008, 8:04 AM > I know this is an annoying situation, but since Si in the > past few > months has ignored our suggestion to discuss things in the > mailing > lists, instead of just writing uni-directional messages > using Jira, I > don't think we will have any luck in this. I am sure he > understands > this is far from an optimal setup (as I am sure that he > would be able > to create message filters for managing the volume of the ml > traffic), > and we can't (nor want) force him to do something he > has decided to > not concede us. > > Jacopo > > On Aug 16, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Adrian Crum wrote: > > > How about we issue a "strongly worded > letter?" ;-) > > > > Seriously though, when I first subscribed to the > lists, I balked at > > the volume of incoming mail. I still needed to read it > so I set up > > filters to sort it. I'm sure Si could do the same. > > > > I agree he should retain his commit privileges, but I > also believe > > he needs to participate in the dev list (at least). > > > > -Adrian > > > > > > --- On Fri, 8/15/08, David E Jones > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> From: David E Jones > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: svn commit: r686301 - in > /ofbiz/trunk/framework/ > >> webapp: dtd/site-conf.xsd > src/org/ofbiz/webapp/control/ > >> ConfigXMLReader.java > src/org/ofbiz/webapp/control/RequestHandler.java > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Friday, August 15, 2008, 9:01 PM > >> On Aug 15, 2008, at 2:20 PM, Adam Heath wrote: > >> > >>> Scott Gray wrote: > >>>> Forwarding since Si doesn't subscribe > to the > >> dev list > >>> > >>> Er, he has commit access, but doesn't > subscribe? > >> Should this be > >>> disallowed? > >> > >> There are definitely people that have a problem > with this, > >> and it is a > >> weird situation. It is true that all committers > should > >> follow the dev > >> list and watch for things for them, as well as for > things > >> that relate > >> to things they have worked on. They should also > monitor the > >> commits > >> list to monitor all changes to areas of the > project they > >> are familiar > >> with. > >> > >> Unfortunately Si seems to have chosen not to do > this, and > >> not to stay > >> involved in this way with OFBiz. It's also > unfortunate > >> that he doesn't > >> discuss his changes a whole lot, and issues do > tend to come > >> up with > >> them that are often not resolved or not adequately > >> resolved. In other > >> words, he usually uses his commit privileges to > get things > >> into the > >> project quickly for his convenience and isn't > really > >> participating in > >> the community. > >> > >> While unfortunate, what to do about it is another > question. > >> Should the > >> PMC really vote to remove his commit privileges? > My guess > >> is no, that > >> wouldn't be a good action or conducive to > community > >> building. > >> > >> So instead we keep a close eye on his commits, > knowing that > >> dues to > >> his infrequent community interactions and commits > that he > >> may have a > >> harder time with things that he puts in. Along > with this, > >> as Scott > >> mentioned, he does contribute valuable things here > and > >> there and that > >> is great for the project. There are other people > in this > >> boat to, and > >> really all committers should review the work of > other > >> committers for > >> the sake of the project. > >> > >> Anyway, it's something on the back-burner and > not > >> something that there > >> seems to be something to do about right away, and > whether > >> there is > >> anything the PMC could do to improve the situation > or not > >> is still a > >> big question. > >> > >> -David > > > > > >
