BJ,

Yes I saw your change when I merged So, this file has 2009 in it. 
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772914&view=rev
And now no OFBiz proper files has still 2008 in it but LICENCE and NOTICE which I'm working on because of the future Axis2 component integration...
So I'm not sure what you want to do with the 2 others ;o)

Thanks

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" <[email protected]>
the jira for ModelInduceFromDb.jsp already has it in it
if you want I can do the other two and include them in the same jira
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-2432

Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 5/9/2009 5:38 AM:
I have finally reverted r772941 at r773211
To be consistent, I have replaced 2009 by ${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
in specialpurpose/cmssite/template/ofbiz/ofbizFooter.ftl at r773216

If someone is interested, I did not take the time to think about
ModelInfo.java
ModelWriter.jsp
ModelInduceFromDb.jsp

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]>
I had a look,  in US seems to be 95 or 120 years in our case <<If a
work of corporate authorship, 95 years from publication or 120
years from creation, whichever expires first>>
What is less clear to me is if a release is a publication and if
creation is begining with Undersun or Apache Era (I guess Apache
Era)... Moreover things are not the same in EU, etc.

Headache :/

I think you are right David. We should simplify our work and use
automatic date copyright generation for all artifacts generated.
If someone has a better understanding of all these things please chime
in, I give up!

Jacques

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <[email protected]>
From: "David E Jones" <[email protected]>
Yes, we do need an end date (or not start date). Copyright
protection  has a limited time period, I believe something like 10
years for  things like this. Because of that copyright holders have
an incentive  to update the copyright date as they release
new editions.

In EU seems to be 70 years (IANAL), anyway I understand why people
update the copyright now. But are we sure that a new edition
allows to break the 10-70 years ?

Again, please keep in mind the difference between a copyright
message  for a specific file in the project, and a copyright
message that  represents that output generated by the system (which
copyright is  typically customized when the system is
deployed, BTW).

I see the difference, but is this legal ? What does it means ? If
OFBiz is still used in 2100 but not updated since 2050, this
means that the generated outputs are still protected but not the
software itself !?

The files changed here are for the copyright statements which cover
generated output, so the substantial change issue is
satisfied, and in  fact it has nothing to do with it because each
page generated is a  unique work and not tied to a previous
page.

Are you sure we legally able to differentiate the work (OFBiz) and
its generated outputs ?

In the headers for each file in the project what really should
happen  is that people update the copyright date when they make
substantial  changes to each file. Trying to remember that and keep
track of it is  not terribly likely and is a real pain as
another thing on top of  dozens already for people to remember.

I have already forgotten, what were you speaking about ? ;p

The best solution for those headers (which again has nothing to do
with this particular commit) is probably to do a review once
a year of  all files with more than X lines (probably 5-10) of
changes, and then  update the headers on those (if they haven't
already been updated).

Yes sounds like a good policy

Jacques

-David


On May 8, 2009, at 9:49 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

Also I (we?) have not checked this rule
http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html . I just
tried but did not find
anything obvious...
Some links
http://itlaw.wikia.com/wiki/Copyright_duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Duration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directive_on_harmonising_the_term_of_copyright_protection#Duration_of_protection


Finally I wonder now if we really need to put and end date there...!

Maybe David Goodenough can enlighten us ?

Jacques


From: "David E Jones" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: svn commit: r772941 - in /ofbiz/trunk:
framework/common/ webcommon/includes/fo/
framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/ specialpurpose/
webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/ themes/flatgrey/includes/ themes...



I think we should undo this change. The dynamic dates represented
here  do not copyright the files that the code is in, they
copyright what  the code produces, and that is constantly
changing  so the dynamic date  is appropriate.

-David


On May 8, 2009, at 5:15 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Author: jleroux
Date: Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
New Revision: 772941

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=772941&view=rev
Log:
See http://markmail.org/message/znytl2y4inpmxbdo (David
Goodenough's  advice on copyright update)
extract : "My understanding of the Berne Convention rules for
Copyright (which covers most jurisdictions - even the USA
now), is  that the copyright period only gets extended when the
copyrighted   item gets updated."

Modified:
  ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
footer.fo.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl

ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/
footer.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
Footer.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
  ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/
basic- footer.fo.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-footer.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff

= = = = = = = =  = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
footer.fo.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/common/webcommon/includes/fo/basic-
footer.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
-->
<#escape x as x?xml>
       <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after" font-
size="$ {(layoutSettings.footerFontSize)?default("8pt")}">
-            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
+            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
Foundation</  fo:block>
           <fo:block
text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}
<fo:page-number/></fo:block>
       </fo:static-content>
</#escape>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/EntityRefReport.fo.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff

= = = = = = = =  = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/framework/webtools/webapp/webtools/entity/
EntityRefReport.fo.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -70,7 +70,7 @@

       <#-- footer -->
       <fo:static-content flow-name="xsl-region-after">
-            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")}
The  Apache  Software Foundation</fo:block>
+            <fo:block text-align="center" border-top="thin
solid   black">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software
Foundation</  fo:block>
           <fo:block
text-align="center">${uiLabelMap.CommonPage}
<fo:page-number/></fo:block>
       </fo:static-content>


Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
includes/footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff

= = = = = = = =  = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
includes/ footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/ecommerce/webapp/ecommerce/
includes/ footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
 </div>
 <br/>
 <div class="tabletext" align="center">
-    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org " class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
+    <div class="tabletext">Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache
Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org";
class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
   <div class="tabletext">Powered by <a href="http://
ofbiz.apache.org" class="tabletext" target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</
a></div>
 </div>
 <br/>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/
includes/ Footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/Footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff

= = = = = = = =  = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
Footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/specialpurpose/webpos/webapp/webpos/includes/
Footer.ftl Fri May  8 11:15:08 2009
@@ -26,7 +26,7 @@
</div>
<br/>
<div align="center">
-    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></div>
+    <div>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation
-  <a href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></div>
   <div>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org";
target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></div>
</div>
<br/>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff

= = = = = = = =  = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/flatgrey/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8
11:15:08 2009
@@ -61,7 +61,7 @@
 <p><a href="http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/";><img
src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/vcss.gif</@ofbizContentUrl>"
alt="Valid CSS!"/></a>
 <a href="http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=referer";><img
src="<@ofbizContentUrl>/images/valid-xhtml10.png</
@ofbizContentUrl>" alt="Valid XHTML 1.0!"/></a></p>
 <p>
-  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?
string("yyyy")} The Apache Software Foundation - <a
href="http://www.apache.org "
target="_blank">www.apache.org</a><br />
+  ${uiLabelMap.CommonCopyright} (c) 2001-2009 The Apache
Software  Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org";
target="_blank">www.apache.org </a><br />
 ${uiLabelMap.CommonPoweredBy} <a
href="http://ofbiz.apache.org";   target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a>
<#include
"../../../runtime/  svninfo.ftl" /></p>
</div>
<#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>

Modified: ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl
URL:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl?rev=772941&r1=772940&r2=772941&view=diff

= = = = = = = =  = =
====================================================================
--- ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl (original)
+++ ofbiz/trunk/themes/multiflex/includes/footer.ftl Fri May  8
11:15:08 2009
@@ -21,7 +21,7 @@

<div class="footer">
 <p align="center">
-    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-${nowTimestamp?string("yyyy")} The
Apache  Software Foundation - <a href="http://www.apache.org";
class="tabletext" target="_blank">www.apache.org</a></p>
+    <p>Copyright (c) 2001-2009 The Apache Software Foundation -
<a  href="http://www.apache.org"; class="tabletext"
target="_blank">www.apache.org </a></p>
   <p>Powered by <a href="http://ofbiz.apache.org";
target="_blank">Apache OFBiz</a></p>
 </p>
 <#if layoutSettings.VT_FTR_JAVASCRIPT?has_content>












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