Hi Ruth,
As Tim well explained, for the moment the community is still more looking for technical help. So we are inclined to push new comers
to use the trunk rather than any release. I guess that's why the Download button links to the nightly build. Note that on the same
page we also propose the release 9.04. As I explained we keep svn artifact in them (trunk and release) in order to facilitate
further update from new users. The R9.04 release is supposed to be the more stable (as no new feature are pushed in) and _is udated
every time a bug fix is commited in trunk_.
Some out of context but somehow related thoughts
As Anil said in the 1st comment at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-635 (thanks for the link BJ), I think also that it's
all about requirements. Not only about an install wizard, but for all the project.
When you have said that, you immediatly understand than an ERP is not the same beast as, say a CMS, or even something like Magento
(though maybe we could get some practical ideas from there...). Portlets have JSR 168, CMSs have JSR 170, ESBs have JSR 208, etc.
But you see that an ERP can't be defined with such a thing because the business level is involved... (and I even don't think we lack
JSRs for the entity and services engines as they are there now :o). David has recently decided to put more efforts in this
perspective and created a new workspace in the wiki http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBREQDES/Home, see also his new website
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Hi Jacques:
Thanks for this update. I appreciate and respect the time it takes you to help
me sort through this issue.
I'm still a little confused (and I don't see any mention of this in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan) about why
the decision to make the "ready-made" package a nightly build. For new users
such as those who would prefer to download the zip
"because they don't want or have not the skill to install", wouldn't it make
more sense from both project support (that is,
answering all those annoying newbie questions) and public relations (that is,
not having to answer all those annoying newbie
questions or explaining why something doesn't work as advertised) points of
view, to have this point to the last pre-built
"stable" release, instead of a nightly build?
Maybe we could open this up as a discussion point on the list? I'm really
interested in the OFBiz project getting to a point where
I can tell prospective users: "Download this stable version. Here's what you
get. If what you got isn't what was advertised, then
either I screwed up and set your expectations incorrectly, or there is a bug in the
code." Right now, I can't do that. I have no
idea what a stable release should contain or what I should be telling my
prospects.
Just my 2 cents.
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
I just made a link fix at
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/OFBiz+Source+Repository+and+Access
(Alternative download was
still pointing to an HWM server)
I think it's explained there : some people prefer to dowload a zip because they
don't want or have not the skill to install
Subversion.
BTW We have received a complaint recently about putting svn artifacts in our
zip. I'm not quite sure but if I remember well it
was a
decision to put them there to facilitate future svn update for people convinced
by OFBiz.
About this subject I'd like to answer this to Tony Stevenson could PMC members
confirms please. If it's not the reason, I presume
we
were leasy about using svn export :o)
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Thanks Jacques:
I had read this in the past and never really given it much thought. My bad.
Anyhow, rereading it now, it is time for me to ask
this question:
Could you or someone else within the project comment on how this strategy fits
with the decision to offer nightly builds as the
primary download/distribution offering [website button download]?
Just curious.
Ruth
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Does this exist: an articulated release strategy for the OFBiz project? If so,
could someone point me to it?
TIA
Ruth
