Hi David:
I wasn't going to say anything about this, but my most recent experience
with the nightly trunk download has me fuming again...Just because an
organization is made up of volunteers, doesn't mean there is no need for
rules, respect for others and most importantly leadership.
Here's how I would start to "fix things". I'd say: No more commits until
the community gets the one or more processes in place necessary to
coordinate testing, builds and releases. Anyone who violates the rule,
looses the right to commit. When all the processes are in place and
agreed upon, then you can give all the violators back the right to commit.
You, David, have the power to give developer's commit access to the
source code repository. You, David, can take it away. Or am I wrong
about that? Who, BTW, gave all these people commit access to the source
code repository initially?
Regards,
Ruth
David E Jones wrote:
To be clear, I'd like to hear from other people too. If anyone has any ideas
about how we can get people to do this, by all means let's discuss it!
This need and concern has come up in many places many times over the years of
the project. I have some thoughts on good ways to go about this (like the UBPL
stuff, automated testing which is going on now, etc, etc), but how to get
people to do things, especially in a volunteer organization like this, is
another question...
-David
On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi David,
I have no answers yet, I must says I have not even thought about it...
For the moment I only propose to concentrate on existing known bugs repertoried
in opened Jira issues.
Thanks
Jacques
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----- Original Message ----- From: "David E Jones" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Bugs and open Jira issues
Jacques,
I appreciate this feeling. In general OFBiz would benefit a lot from more
testing, more definition of what to test against (ie what does a pass or fail
look like, ie what is the design to test against), and in general more care
about respecting others by not breaking things that already exist.
The questions is, how do we get people to do this?
-David
On Dec 5, 2009, at 1:51 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to express a feeling I have. Actually it's not only my own feeling but
also something some users have expressed recently.
I'm quite happy to see that these last times a lot of effort have been made in
order to fix OFBiz (yes to fix OFBiz!)
It's really great to see new features in OFBiz. But I really wonder if we
should not slow down the pace in integrating new features for a short period of
time and should not make and even greatest effort to have a more stable OFBiz.
There are 180 bugs opened in Jira. Don't you think it's time for the community
to have a look at them and to fix the most important ones (109 are considered
as at least important) ?
Thanks
Jacques
