Java 1.6 has been out for a long time and is being updated automatically by 
many OS so I think we're likely good as we go.  Thanks for the help.

Cheers,
Ruppert
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On Dec 9, 2009, at 7:34 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:

> Hi Tim:
> Thanks again.
> This all is really great.
> As I look at the "What Do I Get" column, I'm thinking that this should stay 
> as is. It is clear and concise and applies to all the various downloads. It 
> is easy to find and read.
> 
> Maybe you could add, next to the "install java SDK version 1.6", something 
> like: [required for trunk builds, nightly 9.04 builds require  Java SDK 1.5] 
> if in fact this is true. If not, then forget it. (I'm not sure how many users 
> out there - other than bleeding edge developers - are using Java 1.6, and if 
> it isn't necessary to run OFBiz in some instances, then I think it is 
> important to state that fact. )
> 
> Thanks again.
> Maybe some other users (new or otherwise) would like to comment.
> Regards,
> Ruth
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> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>> It was here, but I forgot it was on the home page too - will be done before 
>> you get this message:
>> 
>> http://build.ofbiz.org/branches.php
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ruppert
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>> Tim Ruppert
>> HotWax Media
>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> 
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>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 6:27 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Hi Tim:
>>> Well, you can't blame a girl for asking :-)
>>> I'll look at the "What Do You Get" stuff next. Also, I just looked at the 
>>> changes and I think you said #6 was done (below) but I don't see it on the 
>>> page.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for doing this.
>>> Ruth
>>> 
>>> Tim Ruppert wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Ruth, first of all, thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to do 
>>>> this, but I fear that we need to call a "Time Out" and recalibrate the 
>>>> direction you went with your offering.  There are a bunch of changes here 
>>>> around an agenda that I've repeatedly mentioned does not seem to be inline 
>>>> with what the project generally pushes for development - so let's step 
>>>> back and look at this requirement the way we originally discussed it - to 
>>>> document what we have not to change it all around.  Comments inline
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ruppert
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>>>> Tim Ruppert
>>>> HotWax Media
>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
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>>>> On Dec 9, 2009, at 5:07 PM, Ruth Hoffman wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> Hi Tim et al:
>>>>> 
>>>>> First, I'm not sure I know what the difference is between the column 
>>>>> labeled "Nightly Trunk Builds" and the one labeled "Archived Trunk 
>>>>> Builds". Why both?
>>>>>           
>>>> Well one is of the trunk - and one is of the trunk every month for the 
>>>> entire time we've been doing this.  This is common functionality for many 
>>>> projects - that's why we do both.  Check out the branches page for hte     
>>>>    
>>>>> OK, but not to get hung up on that...here's my first go-round at 
>>>>> suggested changes:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For starters, how about something like the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) Change the big download button on the right of the page to point to 
>>>>> the latest nightly 9.04 release build. (Not the trunk build). Also, 
>>>>> change the text on that button from "DOWNLOAD OFBIZ" to: "New Users 
>>>>> DOWNLOAD OFBIZ Here!".
>>>>>           
>>>> I'd like to keep the main download as the trunk with better directions to 
>>>> getting the 9.04 release from this main page.  Button text is too large to 
>>>> be graphically pleasing in any way.  Let's figure another way to make this 
>>>> clear.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> 2) Change the "OFBiz Nightly Trunk Releases" heading to:
>>>>> "OFBiz Nightly Release Builds"
>>>>>           
>>>> This is committed and posted with some mods.  I'm going to change the main 
>>>> page to OFBiz Nightly Builds (since not both are releases) and changed the 
>>>> branch page to OFBiz Nightly Release Builds (since it only has releases) 
>>>> if that makes it more clear for you
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> 3) Swap the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column with the "Nightly Release 9.04 
>>>>> Builds" column so that "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" may be easily seen 
>>>>> by new users.
>>>>>           
>>>> Again - they're both at the top of the page and I do not think this is a 
>>>> good idea.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> 4) Under the "Nightly Release 9.04 Builds" column, put something like the 
>>>>> following:
>>>>> [Recommended for new users.
>>>>>           
>>>> I don't agree without more information about them and how they're going to 
>>>> use it.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> The most stable code base.
>>>>>           
>>>> +1 there.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> All current stable features.
>>>>>           
>>>> That's likely not true that all features are stable - but those are the 
>>>> breaks.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> The best option for getting community help.]
>>>>>           
>>>> I think this is absolutely not true.
>>>> 
>>>> For now, I've changed this information to the following - we can adjust it 
>>>> to something more when we agree:
>>>> 
>>>> "The most current release of OFBiz and the most stable platform for 
>>>> production deployments."        
>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so links. Add a link to list other, older builds 
>>>>> after the 5 most recent.
>>>>>           
>>>> Done - let's try 10 first and see what we think - but 5 is too little (I 
>>>> checked it out).
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> 5) Under the "Nightly Trunk Builds" column, put something like the 
>>>>> following:
>>>>> [Recommended for project committers and those who want the latest and 
>>>>> greatest code. May not be as stable as the 9.04 nightly release builds.]
>>>>>           
>>>> Done
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, older 
>>>>> builds after the 5 most recent.]
>>>>>           
>>>> Done - 10 for now except archives - 5 is too little - especially for 
>>>> archives.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> 6) Under  the "Nightly Release 4.0 Builds" column, put something like the 
>>>>> following:
>>>>> [Recommended for  (legacy) compatibility with earlier releases of OFBiz.
>>>>> Not recommended for new development where compatibility with the 9.04 
>>>>> release is desired.
>>>>> Note: support for Release 4.0 builds may be difficult to find and hence 
>>>>> this release is not recommended for new users.]
>>>>>           
>>>> Done
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> Also, only list 5 or so recent links. Add a link to list other, older 
>>>>> builds after the 5 most recent.
>>>>>           
>>>> Done - 10 for now except archives - 5 is too little - especially for 
>>>> archives.
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> I'd like to see how those changes look. That might be enough to minimize 
>>>>> any confusion.
>>>>>           
>>>> For the descriptions, I'd focus on cleaning up the "What you get?" area 
>>>> for further clarification
>>>> 
>>>>       
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Ruth
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>           
>>>>       
>> 
>>  

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