On 4/03/2010, at 9:02 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:

> Scott.
> 
> May i remind you that your company provided hosting services and was
> named on the front page for that? I still thank your company for that.

Last time I checked it was free to create a twitter account.  Hosting 
confluence and the demo instances as well as the big files did come at a 
substantial cost to HotWax and Contegix.

> May remind you that your company sponsored the entity diagrams and was
> mentioned in this twitter services? I still thank your company for that.

I'm not sure of the relevance.

> May i remind you that i currently keep the demo site running (need at
> leas a restart every day) and are not mentioned on the front page for
> that?

As soon as I find some time I will request an account for access to the demo 
system and put some scripts in place that will remove this heavy burden from 
your shoulders.

> May i remind you i am in the PMC too so the PMC is actually is control?

I am in the PMC also and yet I have no control so is the PMC actually in 
control?

> And now you are criticizing that i cannot mention that this twitter
> service is provided by Antwebsystems?

Rename the feed to ant_ofbiz and add a section on the website where other 
people can add their own feeds and clearly indicate that they are not official 
ASF resources and you will hear no criticism from me.

> So, I keep the saying of Dale Carnegie to keep my good mood :-)

There is really no need to get in a bad mood about this, I have no problem with 
you trying to market OFBiz alongside your own company but your cannot pose as 
an official ASF information resource.

Regards
Scott

> 
> Regards,
> Hans
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:49 -0700, Scott Gray wrote:
>> Unless you want to actually engage in the discussion, I'll be reverting your 
>> commit within the next few hours.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 4/03/2010, at 8:42 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> 
>>> Dale Carnegie was a very wise man.......You know him?
>>> Perhaps you should read his books, very interesting.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Hans
>>> 
>>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:35 -0700, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>> Hans,
>>>> 
>>>> Your p.s. is very rude and I don't appreciate it.
>>>> 
>>>> Please check the guidelines about using Apache names and how wrong it is 
>>>> to give the impression of providing official ASF resources when it is not 
>>>> the case.  You are breaking the rules and I'm simply letting you know 
>>>> about it.  As I said, if you want to promote OFBiz then hand the account 
>>>> credentials over to the PMC and remove your company's name from the 
>>>> description.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 8:28 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Scott, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> just trying to make some promotion for OFBiz....
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Hans
>>>>> 
>>>>> P.S.
>>>>> When you are kicked or criticized remember it is often done because it
>>>>> gives the kicker a feeling of importance. It often means that you are
>>>>> accomplishing  something and are worthy of attention.
>>>>> -- Dale Carnegie.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:16 -0700, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>> should -> shouldn't  :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 7:47 AM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Who is the us in "follow us"?  It seems to me that "us" is you.  There 
>>>>>>> is nothing official about this twitter feed and IMO it should be on the 
>>>>>>> OFBiz website unless it is controlled by the PMC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4/03/2010, at 3:25 AM, hans...@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Author: hansbak
>>>>>>>> Date: Thu Mar  4 10:25:01 2010
>>>>>>>> New Revision: 918926
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=918926&view=rev
>>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>>> add twitter button
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Added:
>>>>>>>> ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png   (with props)
>>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>>> ofbiz/site/index.html
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Added: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png
>>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png?rev=918926&view=auto
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> Binary file - no diff available.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Propchange: ofbiz/site/images/follow_us-b.png
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> svn:mime-type = application/octet-stream
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Modified: ofbiz/site/index.html
>>>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/ofbiz/site/index.html?rev=918926&r1=918925&r2=918926&view=diff
>>>>>>>> ==============================================================================
>>>>>>>> --- ofbiz/site/index.html (original)
>>>>>>>> +++ ofbiz/site/index.html Thu Mar  4 10:25:01 2010
>>>>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,9 @@
>>>>>>>>         <a href="#">Login | </a> <a href="#">Register | </a> <a 
>>>>>>>> href="#">Settings</a>
>>>>>>>>     </div>
>>>>>>>>     -->
>>>>>>>> +        <div id="language">
>>>>>>>> +            <a href="http://www.twitter.com/apache_ofbiz";><img 
>>>>>>>> src="images/follow_us-b.png" /></a>
>>>>>>>> +        </div>
>>>>>>>>     <div id="nav">
>>>>>>>>         <ul>
>>>>>>>>             <li id="current"><a 
>>>>>>>> href="http://ofbiz.apache.org/";>Home</a></li>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>> 
>> 
> -- 
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> 

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