Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Ruth,
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Hi Jacques:
Wow, I'm flattered that you would compare myOFBiz.com to Java! Or at
least juxtapose it with the "big boys" :-)
Just to clear the air:
1) myOFBiz.com is not an organization, company or any other
commercially viable entity. It is a domain name and a server running
an instance of OFBiz.
2) Like myOFBiz.com, ofbiz.org is only a domain name. Both have no
intellectual property or other proprietary resources that could be
sold. The only thing that can be sold, in either case, is the domain
name. Which, I have to admit for ofbiz.org has brand recognition - at
least today. That is why I'm interested in it. .
3) I fully understand your position. IMO the ofbiz.org domain is not
a sacred icon. In fact, as each day goes by, it has less and less
meaning.
Less meaning? Why?
Because it has been superseded by the Apache brand. IMO, if the Apache
brand catches on, then the ofbiz.org brand will fade. And we all want
the Apache brand to succeed. That ofbiz.org does not (and should not)
compete with Apache is a good thing. Better to just put it to rest and
be done with it. I'm not against ASF having it, I just wanted to
continue to market and push it as a complement to the ASF brand.
If project committers and other OFBiz devotees wish to worship at the
ofbiz.org shrine, then who am I to ask "why?". It is you belief that
ofbiz.org has value. I'm very progressive in at least this regard: I
believe, "to each his/her own".
"to each his/her own": a new idiom for me
How about, "live and let live".
On a related note, do you feel that there is something wrong with
commercial success? What I mean is, why can't OFBiz enjoy some
"commercial" success? Or maybe I should ask, what do you mean by
"commercial"?
To paraphrase a famous predecessor <<I challenge you to quote where I
said that.>> :D
Ok, fair. Sorry. I didn't mean any disrespect.
Jacques
PS: BTW I wish you all the best with myOfbiz.com. Because I know it
will be good for OFBiz and the community at large...
Thanks. I am certainly trying to make it so!
Regards,
Ruth
Kind Regards,
Ruth
Thanks
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hi Ruth,
I'm sorry to say that I agree with Jeroen. I'd never have made a
proposition like yours: for me ofbiz.org is clearly and should
remain a community name.
It's not directed against you, because I believe in your faith in
OFBiz. But who knows what will happen with your effort? It's hard
to trust people, even when you have a good feeling, but it's even
harder to trust organizations. Look for instance at what happened
recently to Java now owned by Oracle (and BTW according to Tiobe
recenlty lost its 1st place as a language
http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html),
MySql may also suffer for the same reason, and we know the IT
history is cluttered of such cases.
Also I was already dissapointed by the Opentaps experience. Even if
Si has been almost clear about his intentions (not sure at which
point though) see "How to make money from open source" at
http://www.opensourcestrategies.org/.
My 2 cts
Jacques
From: "Ruth Hoffman" <[email protected]>
Hi Jeroen:
If this was a directed to me, then:
1) My enterprise is not a money making, "commercial" concern. My
mission has always been to provide high quality affordable
learning resources to the community at large. My view of the
"community" is anyone looking for OFBiz materials, not just project
committers. The only way I can possible afford to do that is charge
a nominal fee for some of these books. And, believe me, I'm
not making any money on this endeavor. As I've said before, it is a
labor of love.
2) Want to donate money to help the cause? Buy some of my books.
You will help pay for the server and hosting, quality content
creation tools, professional editors, SME's time in reviewing
materials...and I could go on.
Regards,
Ruth
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Jeroen van der Wal wrote:
I don't like to see ofbiz.org to be used for commercial purposes. If
the subscription cost is a problem I'm willing to make a donation in
order to keep the domain within the community.
