+1 for parking it. your right it would force action. ========================= BJ Freeman http://bjfreeman.elance.com Strategic Power Office with Supplier Automation <http://www.businessesnetwork.com/automation/viewforum.php?f=93> Specialtymarket.com <http://www.specialtymarket.com/>
Systems Integrator-- Glad to Assist Chat Y! messenger: bjfr33man Linkedin <http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=&key=1237480&locale=en_US&trk=tab_pro> David E Jones sent the following on 4/21/2010 11:02 AM: > Shi, > > I'm the one who started this discussion. My intention so far has been to try > to encourage some action on this issue. So far, that has failed (lots of > talk, no action). > > If I kept ofbiz.org I'm not sure what I'd even do with it, and I'd rather > have the ASF take it over. > > Still, after the responses so far keeping it for my own isn't a bad idea... > and becoming more tempting. Most likely though I'll just play the Hotwax game > and hold on to it but change the DNS server and park it to encourage action. > > -David > > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Shi Yusen wrote: > >> I think David should keep ofbiz.org as his own. Community is not >> communist. >> >> Please stop this discussion. >> >> >> 在 2010-04-21三的 11:46 -0600，Tim Ruppert写道： >>> Here's the latest update from Infra at the ASF: >>> >>> 1. They will be happy to migrate the ofbiz.org domain. >>> 2. They have recommended that we not transfer it to them right away >>> - But instead either reup it where it is or migrate it to someone who can >>> manage it >>> 3. The reason is that it will take a while for them to migrate all of the >>> services :( >>> - This will be important IMO. >>> - The services that would be migrated would be: >>> -- DNS >>> -- Apache redirects >>> 4. Getting services in place before we move to the ASF. >>> - I think this is important because due to propagation, we would have >>> everything already setup. >>> - This will lead to less headaches. >>> >>> Because David does not want to be in the middle of this, my vote would >>> still be to transfer the domain to someone like Jacopo since he's the PMC >>> chair. He gets the domain reup at really cheap prices, he has access to >>> keep the services exactly as they are today and can get the information to >>> the ASF, and there's no chance that he'd do something devious with the >>> domain. >>> >>> David, if you are interested in this, please think about it and let us all >>> know - this will ensure that services do not go down for anyone involved - >>> and Jacopo can manage migrating it to the ASF once the DNS and apache host >>> files are already in place. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ruppert >>> >>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: >>> >>>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 7:05 AM, David E Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>> Wow, this discussion has really taken on a life of its own. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I wasn't clear enough before... the $35 or somehow saving me some >>>>> effort in continuing to do things the old way is not the point, the point >>>>> is to get this onto ASF infra ASAP just like all other resources. It >>>>> would be way easier to click a few buttons but that wouldn't resolve the >>>>> issue with ofbiz.org that some individual owns the domain and that the >>>>> DNS is still hosted by a third party (ie Contegix). >>>>> >>>> Yes this makes a lot of sense to me; let's see if the Infra can take >>>> action quickly (the ball is already in their court) and if not let's find >>>> another good solution together. >>>> >>>>> On the other hand, the whole auctioning idea for the domain name is >>>>> interesting... do I hear $1000? One thousand to the respectable lady in >>>>> front. Do I hear $1500? Fifteen hundred to the gentleman in the t-shirt >>>>> and shorts. Let's get this really going! Do I hear $5000? Amazing folks! >>>>> Five thousand to the man in the suit with the hat with red lettering on >>>>> it that I can't quite make out from here... looks like it starts with an >>>>> "O" and is in all caps. Going once... going twice... sold! A special >>>>> thanks to all involved, and to the man who... wait... wow again! I've >>>>> just been informed that ofbiz.org and sun.com are now under the same >>>>> umbrella... who could have imagined! ;) >>>> This is really great! >>>> BTW thank you David for bringing up this important topic. >>>> >>>> Jacopo >>>> >>>>> -David >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The only thing that's less low effort is that this keeps David having to >>>>>> mess with it - which is what I'm hoping to avoid. As I said before - it >>>>>> doesn't matter to me - this is just a super cheap way of doing things >>>>>> and puts the onus on the people who want to follow this one all the way >>>>>> thru. >>>>>> >>>>>> The good thing - is regardless of which way David decides to go - I >>>>>> think we'll be able to support making it happen relatively quickly. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ruppert >>>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 16, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Ean Schuessler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Ruppert wrote: >>>>>>>> I guess I'd love to know why you're looking to pay $70+ for an interim >>>>>>>> solution when I can get do it for the community for just a few bucks >>>>>>>> and I'll likely be the one to help ensure that it actually gets pushed >>>>>>>> forward and maintained? Doesn't matter much to me, sounds like David >>>>>>>> should just put it up for auction - there seem to be a lot of people >>>>>>>> looking to spend money on it .... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just figured David has been paying for it for some time and could use >>>>>>> a little reimbursement for his troubles. I agree with you that Network >>>>>>> Solutions prices are highway robbery. OpenSRS (TUCOWS) is cheaper as is >>>>>>> GoDaddy or a bunch of others but they all require some immediate effort. >>>>>>> I figured paying the $35 is the lowest effort way for David to keep the >>>>>>> domain secure until ASF-infra is ready to do something about it. He'd >>>>>>> get reimbursed and then some for his effort with my scheme. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I do share your dislike for Network Solutions but what's $35 more bucks >>>>>>> in the larger picture? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Ean Schuessler, CTO >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> 214-720-0700 x 315 >>>>>>> Brainfood, Inc. >>>>>>> http://www.brainfood.com >>>>>>> > >
