Paul, Since I was the last one to update the PMC wiki page, let me correct some points in your point 2
Though less, Paul Foxworthy is still active. You can spot some of his pertinent comments in both the MLs and Jira issues from time to time. We should always remember that quantity is not quality...
Andrew Zeneski has been the last addition to the committee in 2013
I don't know how you came to this result. It's clearly specified that Andrew was a co-founder of the project in 2001 and hence part of the PMC the 1st day of the Apache era. For the rest, I let people defend themselves... if they want... Note that I made a mistake for Erwan and Bruno, they are still part of the PMC. There is indeed no emeritus status for PMC member. The OFBiz PMC could though create one, each PMC is able to create its own policies:http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#emeritus Jacques Le 14/03/2014 11:00, Paul Piper a écrit :
I wouldn't necessarily say that what Pierre brings up is unjust, but understandably this is a heated discussion. I would bring it down to two few core points. Obviously this will offend some, but please bare with me: 1. Commitment starts with recognition I think that the community has a problem with recognizing contributions properly. I am running a company and thus lack the time to review code on a daily basis, over the years I have, however, contributed thousands of hours to this community. I represented OFBiz as a speaker at the ApacheCon, wrote articles to magazines, committed large parts of code and bugfixes (among them since 2006: Apache Solr integration, SEO Updates, Axis2 integration, etc.), committed bugfixes, added wiki documents and helped wherever I could (not even counting in all the free workshops and presentations i have given to people interested in the topic). And though I am only a single person, I think I can say that it went largely unnoticed. From a business perspective i would put it as a "bad investment", but we continue to do it for the love of the project. I noticed that I am not alone in this, other people, like Angus Gow or Rupert Howell are also examples I could name right away that haven't received enough recognition for their contributions. 2. Not everybody in the PMC is active or invested in the community The way I understand the argument is that the OFBiz Community is structured into groups (contributors, committers, pmc), where personal commitment gets you higher in the ranks. This is not the case for the PMC, however. Just glancing over the wiki page, there are several people listed that haven't been active in recent months or sometimes even years. Just to name a few: * Ashish Vijaywargiya (most active till 2010) * Anil Patel (most active till 2010) * Vikas Mayur * Paul Foxworthy * David Welton (probably supported the project in the early stages) * Yoav Shapira (probably supported the project in the early stages) * Joseph Eckard * Bilgin Ibryam Andrew Zeneski has been the last addition to the committee in 2013, before him there hasn't been any change since 2007. The same argument could be made for a few people who are not really invested into the community any longer, push their own products, or have moved on to new projects. This is quite uncommon for a project that is based on personal commitment and begs the question why a committee remains static whereas clearly the project moves forward. -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/The-future-of-OFBiz-Open-Discussion-tp4648865p4649277.html Sent from the OFBiz - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
