Is it a good thing to not regard the ofbiz user as a customer?

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Pierre

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> On 23 okt. 2014, at 17:33, Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 23/10/2014 17:11, Ron Wheeler a écrit :
>> On 23/10/2014 10:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>> 
>>> Le 23/10/2014 15:01, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit :
>>>> On Oct 23, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Jacques Le Roux 
>>>> <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I agree about the idea, but this applies only to releases or checked out 
>>>>> code. Because there are no ways for users to enable/disable a component 
>>>>> in demos, moreover demos are shared.
>>>> Could you please explain the above sentence? I don't understand the 
>>>> meaning of it.
>>> 
>>> Your idea of disabling some specialpurpose component can't be applied in 
>>> R13.07 demo until we decide which component should be disabled in trunk.
>>> In the meantime we should keep the current state (ie all specialpurpose 
>>> components present in trunk should be available in R13.07 demo)
>> 
>> If they are in the demo they should be in the release.
> 
> Actually the specialpurpose components are in the R13.07 demos because they 
> can be there. But they are not maintained in the R13.07 branch (but 
> ecommerce) only in trunk.
> 
>> As you can guess, I am troubled about the relation between releases and the 
>> trunk and demos in OFBiz.
> 
> Would you prefer to not have the specialpurpose components in R13.07 demo?
> 
>> It is a bit odd and certainly goes against most product release strategies 
>> wherein the current release is the recommended download and carries whatever 
>> warranty that the project offers in terms of testing and rapidity of bug 
>> fixes and the trunk is usually called something that includes"nightly build" 
>> and "unstable" in the name and comes with no warranty and a warning about 
>> using it at your own risk.
>> 
>> Demos should be of the latest release and should be stable and have a fixed 
>> functionality that can be documented in the wiki and marketing pages.
> 
> They are, just that they use the branch instead of the packaged releases.  
> For R13.07 (current stable) there is an exception, because I thought it was 
> better to have the specialpurpose components available. This is what Jacopo 
> contests
> 
>> It could be maintained by the documentation team once it is set up since it 
>> should not require any technical skills to keep working and fed with demo 
>> data.
>> 
>> 
>> If the developers need a test site based on the nightly build, they should 
>> be free to set up as many combinations of configurations as they require and 
>> can support  to be sure that the trunk still works but this should not be 
>> the public demo or even be called a "demo".
> 
> It's also, there are no official mention of the trunk demo, it's only a 
> developers thing.
> 
>> 
>> Of course, this only works if a release is actually a Release and the team 
>> stands behind it and uses it when establishing new customers.
> 
> We have no customers, only users
> 
> Jacques
> 
>> 
>> Does anyone have an opinion about the gap between 13.07.01 and what the main 
>> SI companies are getting from using the trunk instead.
>> Would a monthly release pattern reduce this gap to a point where it would be 
>> possible to use the official Release as the actual release?
>> 
>>> 
>>> I hope it's more clear
>>> 
>>> Jacques
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jacopo
>> 
>> 

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