I'd be interested to see just how you would go about it, given the fact
that unlike screens, trees and forms, the widget-menu.xsd does not allow
for actions such as entity-condition etc.

Gavin

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Adrian Crum <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Some of those lists can be rendered with the form widget.
>
> We can create a widget for the main navigation.
>
> Adrian Crum
> Sandglass Software
> www.sandglass-software.com
>
> On 10/30/2014 11:15 PM, Gavin Mabie wrote:
>
>> You referred to such a case in point in an earlier mail - i.e the
>> displayApps/displaySecondaryApps in the main-navigation. Other examples
>> that come to mind are a list of available languages, list of visual
>> themes,
>> a task list - all of which could be presented as dropdown options -
>> eliminating the need for a additional request and screen.
>>
>> Gavin
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Adrian Crum <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  That is not possible with the current architecture. The widget models are
>>> supposed to be read-only.
>>>
>>> What is the use case?
>>>
>>> Adrian Crum
>>> Sandglass Software
>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>
>>> On 10/30/2014 3:17 PM, Gavin Mabie wrote:
>>>
>>>  Wish
>>>>
>>>> It would be super cool if we had an iterator inside the menu widget.
>>>> That
>>>> would allow for dynamic menu item generation. Or does it exist?
>>>>
>>>> Gavin
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Scott Gray <[email protected]
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Yeah he did a great job implementing the macro renderer.  We discussed
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> idea many years ago and he turned it into something real (which is
>>>>> definitely the hard part).
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd be interested to hear what integration steps you might take for
>>>>> angularjs, I've been through the tutorials lately and it looks
>>>>> promising
>>>>> as
>>>>> a front-end framework.  But it seems to use static html templates
>>>>> delivered
>>>>> to the client so I'm unsure how OFBiz would play a role other than
>>>>> providing the web services.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/10/2014, at 11:21 pm, Adrian Crum <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Actually, the idea was Jacopo's - when he first introduced the macro
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  screen renderer years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I exploited that feature to use the Sencha JS framework in OFBiz for
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  of our clients. Our current client uses Angular JS, so I expect to be
>>>>> integrating Angular for them. And right now the OFBiz community is
>>>>> working
>>>>> on integrating Bootstrap.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the capability has been there all along, but no one used it until
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 9:51 AM, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  That's a great idea! Thanks for implementing it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30 October 2014 20:31:06 GMT+13:00, Adrian Crum <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I modified the MacroScreenViewHandler in rev 1635411. Themes can
>>>>>> create
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> their own HTML now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 6:37 AM, Gavin Mabie wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Julien,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think that we are actually in agreement about minimizing (even
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  avoiding)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  framework modifications. Maybe we need to further explore exactly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  what
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  qualifies as part of the framework. As Adrian stated in an earlier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  mail on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  the subject: "The Widget Models and Renderer are output agnostic -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  they
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  don't "know" what type of output is being generated. So those
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  artifacts do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  not need to be changed to support Bootstrap.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only things that need to be changed to support Bootstrap (sic
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  any
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  other frontend framework) are the FreeMarker macros - so that they
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  output
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Bootstrap HTML + CSS instead of the current OFBiz-specific HTML +
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  CSS."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Following this line of thinking, creating specific Bootstrap macros
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  should
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  not be considered as changing the framework.  Maybe we need a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  practical
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  example to illustrate this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Julien NICOLAS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry but I'm not sure to understand well the goal...
>>>>>>>>>> We'll modify the framework to match with bootstrap but, if we have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  to do
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  UI modification, we have to do it in the framework ?!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If macros stay in the framework I don't understand how to be as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  flexible
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  as we need if anytime we have to change framework...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My question is : with your example, you'll define compatible
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  bootstrap
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  navbars. But if I want to add something new in it (like avatar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  picture or
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  other feature), do I must change the framework ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the answer is yes, I think we are on the wrong way...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Julien.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 29/10/2014 17:09, Gavin Mabie a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Julien, Adrian
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> IMO that we should try to define all menus via menu widgets. So
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> inclined to agree with Adrian on the issue of the main-navigation
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  menu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Maybe this is something we should include in our Bootstrap project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Loading macros as Visual Visual Theme resources might also address
>>>>>>>>>>> Julien's
>>>>>>>>>>> wish to have a more generic way to integrate front-end
>>>>>>>>>>> frameworks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  I also
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  support the suggestion that we copy the existing macro to the to be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> created
>>>>>>>>>>> Bootstrap theme and to modify them, as per Adrian's suggestion.
>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  can
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  then address the sub-menu issue in the macros.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Adrian Crum <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     If you are referring to the main navigation menu:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <div id="main-navigation">
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> that uses a template instead of a menu widget - it is done that
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  way
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  simply
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because no one has tried to do it differently. Personally, I would
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  like
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> see it changed to a menu widget.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding the existing FreeMarker macros: those should be copied
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  to the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Bootstrap theme and modified to output Bootstrap-specific HTML. To
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  use
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bootstrap theme, you will need to modify widget.properties to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  reference
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bootstrap macros.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It would be nice to have a more dynamic way to change macros,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  it
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  might
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> be best to put that idea on the shelf for now. (Maybe we can make
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  macro
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> file locations Visual Theme resources - store them in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  database.)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 2:28 PM, Julien NICOLAS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>     Adrian,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's just : Why html structure for sub-menu is not managed like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  main
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  menu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to use sub-menu like main menu ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe we can move macro from framework folder to theme folder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hope you understand better in this way :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your help,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julien.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 29/10/2014 15:22, Adrian Crum a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I don't understand the question. Could you ask it in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  way
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  please?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adrian Crum
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sandglass Software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.sandglass-software.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 1:39 PM, Julien NICOLAS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi Gavin, Adrian and all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was thinking about move sub-menu generation by header.ftl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appbarOpen.ftl in theme folder like main menu...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we move the macro in the theme folder or create a service
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  send
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sub-menu entry sorted list ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could be useful to create specific webdesign if this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  be
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> managed manually.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What's your opinion ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julien.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 29/10/2014 12:07, Gavin Mabie a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I'm working on the bootstrap theme branch, I notice that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. menuStringRenderer is out-commettted in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  MacroScreenViewhandler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  class;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2. This being the case, that menus get rendered by default
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> HtmlMenuRenderer class;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The latter automatically creates <ul><li><ul> opening
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tags
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  every
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> menus included in a screen definition with a menu item count
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  bigger
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  than 0;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 4.  This results in an extra <ul> - the first one;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5.  menu item count does not take sub-menus into account -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  fact,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  although defined in the xsd, I could not find any examples of
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  sub-menu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> attribute in any of the *menu,xml.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this an issue?Common sense tells me that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  menuStringRendere was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  (is)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> part pf the architecture, but that a conscious decision was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  made to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  rather
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> leave it out.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some guidance please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gavin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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