That is not difficult to assess. Do a download from trunk, and see how many Mb's are transferred. Do a ./ant clean-all. Subsequently remove all hidden files in .svn folders. Finally do a zip of the cleaned download and compare the original amount of Mb's with the size of the zip file. That difference is what is saved on storage and transfer cost of trunk code.
Now multiply that with the number of branches you had in mind. Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad > Op 13 nov. 2014 om 22:32 heeft Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> > het volgende geschreven: > > > Le 13/11/2014 21:25, Ron Wheeler a écrit : >> Is it Apache's concern that while people may be free to choose, ASF server >> capacity is not free nor unlimited? >> >> I doubt that OFBiz really puts a big load on the ASF infrastructure but >> users are not supposed to be downloading from the SVN. >> They are supposed to get downloads from local mirrors. > > You said it :) At the moment I don't fear any overload on the svn server from > users downloading from releases branches instead of released packages. OFBiz > is not Tomcat ;) > But I must say I have no measures, so you got a point until-we/if-we-can > discover that. Because users can already do that, I think it's fair to use > this method as long as it's reasonable. > Of course, having that suggested in a TLP project could be viewed as an abuse > from the Board, but let's be pragmatic, numbers should tell us the truth (if > can get them) > >> >> That may be the practical side of Apache's urging to get the releases >> following their guidelines. > > Yes for Tomcat, HTTPD or such that's understandable. For OFBiz I "fear" it's > not a problem. Can we discuss with the board in case, instead of hiding > behind unknown numbers? > > Jacques > >> >> Ron >> >> >>> On 13/11/2014 3:13 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>> >>> Le 13/11/2014 20:03, Ron Wheeler a écrit : >>>> Does this solve ASF's issue about having users access the main servers? >>> >>> I don't try to solve an issue, just to propose an alternative. It's a free >>> user choice, but with more elements >>> >>>> What do you put on the mirrors and how do you stop users from accessing >>>> the development SVN which is ASF's concern? >>> >>> Things stay as they are, it's only that we inform our users than another >>> way is possible and we give them enough elements of comparison to choice, >>> it's called freedom >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 13/11/2014 1:55 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: >>>>> For the licence free issues (an other related stuff) we could put a >>>>> disclaimer in the wiki page where all alternatives would be explained >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> Le 13/11/2014 12:38, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : >>>>>> In the past the ASF Board asked to the OFBiz PMC to fix the release >>>>>> strategy of the project by providing officially voted release files thru >>>>>> the ASF mirrors: at that time we were pushing the users to get the trunk. >>>>>> Officially asking the user to use a release branch would be better than >>>>>> the >>>>>> trunk but would bring back similar concerns: an official vote is required >>>>>> to publish a product to the outside of the project in order to guarantee >>>>>> License free issues etc... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Jacques Le Roux < >>>>>> jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a recent user ML threadhttp://markmail.org/message/ivjocjr2ull7lwqe >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> suggested we could propose our users to use a release branch strategy >>>>>>> rather than downloaded packages. >>>>>>> And that we could expose this way of doing in our download page, or >>>>>>> maybe >>>>>>> better with a link to an explaining page (in details) in the wiki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know it's not the recommended way of doing at the ASF. But we all know >>>>>>> the OFBiz differences when compared with other TLPs which are mostly >>>>>>> libs, >>>>>>> and even mostly jars. >>>>>>> Most of us are actually using this way in their custom projects and I >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> a feeling it would not only help our users but also us to support them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jacques >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >>
