I understand. Yes, that could occur.

But I still believe it is an edge case. ;)

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 3/19/2015 8:37 PM, Scott Gray wrote:
You're missing a step that actually causes the issue, prior to the rollback
in 5b some code within the same transaction retrieves the modified row from
the database again which puts the modified row in the cache and makes the
change visible to other transactions even though it hasn't yet been
committed.

Because of our service oriented architecture this scenario isn't uncommon.
An example is updating an OrderHeader's statusId which can trigger a number
of SECAs which in turn are likely to retrieve the OrderHeader row after
being passed only the orderId. If a rollback occurred in one of those
services, the modified row would remain in the cache even though the
changes were never committed.
On 20 Mar 2015 00:06, "Adrian Crum" <adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com>
wrote:

Okay, let's assume processes cannot "see" changes made by another
transaction until that transaction is committed. Here is how the current
entity cache works:

1. A Delegator find method is invoked. The Delegator checks the cache, and
the SQL SELECT result does not exist in the cache.
2. The Delegator executes the SQL SELECT and puts the results in the
entity cache.
3. The SQL SELECT results are returned to the calling process.
4. The calling process modifies one of the values (rows) in the SQL SELECT
result (after cloning the immutable entity value).
5a. Something goes wrong and the calling process rolls back the
transaction before the cloned value is persisted.
5b. Something goes wrong and the calling process rolls back the
transaction after the cloned value is persisted and all related caches have
been cleared.
6. Another process performs the same query as #1.
7. The second process gets the results from the cache. The values from the
cache have not changed because the cloned & modified value (in #4) was not
put in the cache, nor was it written to the data source.

 From my perspective, the scenario you described can only happen if another
process can see changes that are made in the data source before the
transaction is committed.

 From your perspective, the entity cache is somehow inserting invalid
values when a transaction is rolled back.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 3/19/2015 10:41 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

I'm sorry but I'm not following what you're proposing.  Currently row
changes caused within a transaction are available only to queries issued
within that same transaction (i.e. read committed), except that the cache
breaks this isolation by making them immediately available to any
transaction querying that entity.  I don't see how this scenario exists
outside of the cache unless the logic within the transaction explicitly
passes a row off to another transaction, and I'm not aware of any cases
like that.

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:17 AM, Adrian Crum <
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com> wrote:

  I call it an edge case because it is easily fixed by changing the
transaction isolation level.

The behavior you describe is not caused by the entity cache, but by the
transaction isolation level. The same scenario would exist without the
entity cache - where two processes hold a reference to the updated row,
and
one process performs a rollback.

Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 3/19/2015 7:28 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

  Ah, it's quite a large edge case IMO

On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Adrian Crum <
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com> wrote:

   That is the edge case I mentioned.


Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com

On 3/19/2015 6:54 AM, Scott Gray wrote:

   I tend to disagree with the "cache everything" approach because the

cache
isn't transaction aware.
If you:
1. update a record
2. select that same record
3. encounter a transaction rollback

Then the cache will still contain the changes that were rolled back.

Regards
Scott


On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 5:16 AM, Adrian Crum <
adrian.c...@sandglass-software.com> wrote:

    I would like to share some insights into the entity cache feature,
some

  best practices I like to follow, and some related information.

Some OFBiz experts may disagree with some of my views, and that is
okay.
Different experiences with OFBiz will lead to different viewpoints.

The OFBiz entity caching feature is intended to improve performance
by
keeping GenericValue instances in memory - decreasing the number of
calls
to the database.

Background
----------

Initially, the entity cache was very unreliable due to a number of
flaws
in its design and in the code that calls it (it was guaranteed to
produce
stale data). As a result, I personally avoided using the entity cache
feature.

Some time ago, Adam Heath did a lot of work on the entity cache.
After
that, Jacopo and I did a lot of work fixing stale data issues in the
entity
cache. Today, the entity cache is much improved and unit tests ensure
it
produces the correct data (except for one edge case that Jacopo has
identified).

I mention all of this because the previous quirky behavior led to
some
"best practices" that didn't make much sense. A search through the
OFBiz
mail archives will produce a mountain of conflicting and confusing
information.

Today
-----

Since the current entity cache is reliable, there is no reason NOT to
use
it. My preference is to make ALL Delegator calls use the cache. If
all
code
uses the cache, then individual entities can have their caching
characteristics configured outside of code. This enables sysadmins to
fine-tune entity caches for best performance.

[Some experts might disagree with this approach because the entity
cache
will consume all available memory. But the idea is to configure the
cache
so that doesn't happen.]

If you code Delegator calls to avoid the cache, then there is no way
for
a
sysadmin to configure the caching behavior - that bit of code will
ALWAYS
make a database call.

If you make all Delegator calls use the cache, then there is an
additional
complication that will add a bit more code: the GenericValue
instances
retrieved from the cache are immutable - if you want to modify them,
then
you will have to clone them. So, this approach can produce an
additional
line of code.


--
Adrian Crum
Sandglass Software
www.sandglass-software.com








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