I can imagine that some will vote a -1 regarding this reorganisation of the
structure, as this will break backward compatibility and puts the pressure
on all those users who have created extensions and replacements (e.g. in
hot-deploy), especially regarding referenced scripts.

How do we ensure that the pain is minimised? How do we plan for success?

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

*ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>*
Services & Solutions for Cloud-
Based Manufacturing, Professional
Services and Retail & Trade
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On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 24, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Adam Heath <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 04/24/2015 09:57 AM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote:
> >> On Apr 24, 2015, at 4:36 PM, Adam Heath <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> src/main/java/org/ofbiz/product/
> >>>>> src/main/minilang/org/ofbiz/product/
> >>>>> src/main/groovy/...
> >>>>> src/test/java/org/ofbiz/product/
> >>> I haven't yet gotten to integrating a groovy compiler plugin, I see
> only one .groovy in framework/service/src, for the entire project.
> >> When I proposed this I was also thinking about to move the groovy (data
> preparation) scripts that are currently under WEB-INF/actions folders; most
> of them could be used in non web applications.
> >
> > Hmm, right.  Good idea.  We(Brainfood) would love it if all the action
> code was turned into services.  But, even in that case, src/main/scripts
> would be used, as I think src/main/groovy is for groovyc.  I'll find out
> today if that is the case.
>
> I like the idea of differentiating between pre-compiled vs parsed scripts
> using src/main/groovy vs src/main/scripts
>
> Just to re-state the motivations for my initial proposal I am quoting here
> them from a previous message in this thread (I apologize for the double
> posting but I my comments may have been lost in this long thread):
>
> > 1) standardize our layout structure to make it consistent with other
> projects (may make it easier for a new developer to understand OFBiz and
> appreciate it since the beginning)
> > 2) review of past decision in light of the experience, lessons learned
> and established conventions: most of the decision we took for the project
> were optimal at that time but may be suboptimal in light of new
> technologies, standards, trends etc... in order for our (more than 10 years
> old) project to stay fresh and healthy we have to always revisit our
> decisions and keep it young; when the first objection to proposals is that
> this could impact custom projects or existing contributors, then in my
> opinion it is a sign of defensive mentality that could bring to staleness;
> these concerns and considerations are still important, but should be
> discussed (trying to propose a good migration plan) at a later point and
> not used to slow down or stop the change
> > 3) simplify the pre compilation of Groovy (and possibly other) scripts:
> this could be done to spot coding errors in advance, to improve performance
> at runtime, or just to simplify the deployment
> > 4) simplify our build scripts: right now the ant scripts do some
> funny/complex stuff in order to separate test classes from main ones
> > 5) moving a step forward in the direction of allowing the adoption of
> Maven like tools (Maven, Gradle etc..) that could make it easier to share
> external components (grow the ecosystem)
> > 6) right now there is not a standard place for non-Java services or
> events: the script folder is traditionally used for Minilang, where should
> Groovy (or other languages) service implementation live?
> > 7) I have some, longer term, plans to make the OFBiz framework codebase
> more modular: several smaller jars with clear dependencies that could be
> deployed in different ways (vs the monolithic approach we have to follow
> now); a standardization of the source folders may help the adoption of
> tools and strategies for achieving this
>
> Regards,
>
> Jacopo
>

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