Thanks,

I have adjusted https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5464
accordingly.

Best regards,

Pierre Smits

ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
OFBiz based solutions & services

OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/

On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 7:13 AM, Jacopo Cappellato <
jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi Pierre,
>
> in order to avoid as much as possible to break the momentum of the work in
> the framework, I think we should follow the approach #1: migrate to Ivy
> only the three branches and let Taher and the community to complete the
> migration of the trunk to Gradle.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Jacopo,
> >
> > How do envision we approach this endeavour:
> >
> >    - work on 3 separate integration paths for resp. 13.x, 14.x and 15.x,
> or
> >    - work on 1 integration path (on trunk) before the gradle approach
> will
> >    be brought in, then backport to the abovementioned branches, and
> >    subsequently phase out the IVY integration code when the code from the
> >    Gradle approach has been integrated?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> >
> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Jacopo Cappellato <
> > jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Agreed, this is the plan we should follow; we should also port it to
> > 15.12.
> > >
> > > Jacopo
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Pierre Smits <pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I suggest that we apply the IVY approach to the r14. branch as well,
> as
> > > > this is getting pushed further and further into the future, with
> every
> > > new
> > > > critical finding we happen to stumble upon and make a release from
> that
> > > > branch available shortly after we have fixed the 13.x branch.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pierre Smits
> > > >
> > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > >
> > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Pierre Smits <
> pierre.sm...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I will reopen that JIRA issue and set the applicable version to the
> > > > r13.07
> > > > > branch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Pierre
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, June 20, 2016, Jacopo Cappellato <
> > > > > jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Yes, essentially we are proposing to implement in the currently
> > active
> > > > >> release branches exactly what you had already proposed in that
> Jira
> > > > >> ticket.
> > > > >> It took time but we ended up agreeing with your proposal :-)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jacopo
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Pierre Smits <
> > pierre.sm...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > Like I already suggested in my posting of Jan 5th in 2014 (see
> > > section
> > > > >> 'Re:
> > > > >> > Maintainablity'  in thread 'OFBiz in 2014 (
> > > > >> >
> > > >
> > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/OFBiz-In-2014-tt4646641.html#a4646776
> > > > >> ).
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > And for which I provided the JIRA issue , see
> > > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ-5464.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Are we going to revisit that?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Best regards,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Pierre Smits
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > >> > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > >> > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Sharan Foga <
> > sharan.f...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Hi Everyone
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > There has been a bit of work going on in the background
> > regarding
> > > > how
> > > > >> our
> > > > >> > > releases need to handle external dependencies. This is the
> first
> > > of
> > > > >> two
> > > > >> > > emails to let everyone know what has been happening and also
> to
> > > get
> > > > >> > > community feedback.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > While working on re-factoring the trunk dependencies we
> realised
> > > > that
> > > > >> our
> > > > >> > > current 13.07 release didn't meet the ASF guidelines for
> > handling
> > > > >> > > dependencies. Essentially releases must only contain source
> code
> > > and
> > > > >> > should
> > > > >> > > not include external dependencies such as jar files.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > To resolve this as quickly and simply as possible, the PMC
> > decided
> > > > to
> > > > >> use
> > > > >> > > Ivy (a dependency management tool) that is already included in
> > > OFBiz
> > > > >> to
> > > > >> > > manage the dependencies.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > So what will change?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > - When you download the OFBIz 13.07 release, it will only
> > contain
> > > > >> source
> > > > >> > > code
> > > > >> > > - You will need to run a script to download the external OFBiz
> > > > >> dependent
> > > > >> > > files (e.g. jar files)
> > > > >> > > - You compile OFBiz as normal
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > These changes will also need to be done in all our active
> > release
> > > > >> > branches
> > > > >> > > (e.g. 14.12 and 15.12).
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > We will also be communicating this change to our user mailing
> > list
> > > > and
> > > > >> > > will be adding specific documentation to ensure that the
> > everyone
> > > > >> > > understands how downloading and building OFBiz has changed.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > The next steps will be to implement this change and to get our
> > > next
> > > > >> 13.07
> > > > >> > > release update out as soon as possible.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Thanks
> > > > >> > > Sharan
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Pierre Smits
> > > > >
> > > > > ORRTIZ.COM <http://www.orrtiz.com>
> > > > > OFBiz based solutions & services
> > > > >
> > > > > OFBiz Extensions Marketplace
> > > > > http://oem.ofbizci.net/oci-2/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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