Thank you Sharan!

You can remove my info there as I'm working for a startup company. The other 2 
China companies are ok. The Brains Info has a customer Suning. I guess Suning's 
ecommerce website is based on OFBiz (Suning has just bought Football Club 
Internazionale Milano).

Kind Regards,

Shi Jinghai

-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Sharan Foga [mailto:[email protected]] 
发送时间: 2016年8月3日 15:43
收件人: [email protected]
主题: Re: Apache OFBiz Service Providers page

I will start to implement some of these changes discussed here so if anyone 
else wants to join in and help, then please feel free.

Thanks
Sharan

On 2016-08-02 16:06 (+0200), Jacopo Cappellato 
<[email protected]> wrote: 
> While we wait for the new site we could:
> 
> 0) add the page discalimer as suggested; additionally, as Jacques 
> pointed out, this page is open to anyone who submits an ICLA and asks 
> to be registered as OFBiz contributor: no one is really reviewing the 
> data provided... we could mention this in the header of the page
> 1) merge the two lists into one
> 2) sort in alphabetical order
> 3) add a column with the number of committers; one with the number of 
> contributors; we could add also a column with the number of employees 
> working on OFBiz related projects; I don't think that this data would 
> "unduly advantage one commercial entity": the idea is to provide some 
> insight about the teams available to work on OFBiz specific projects
> 4) make the above columns sortable
> 5) Location: simply specify the location of the company's 
> offices/buildings; in the description the company can specify the 
> countries of operation
> 
> Jacopo
> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Emmanuel Lécharny 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi !
> >
> >
> > it came to my attention that this page :
> >
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+Servi
> > ce+Providers
> >
> > might not be neutral enough, as it lists companies having Ofbiz 
> > committers before any other companies. This is a problem, 
> > accordingly to this :
> >
> > "Apache is a 501(c)(3) non-profit, which is a tax-exempt charity for 
> > the public good.  As such, our projects must not unduly advantage 
> > one commercial entity over another -- otherwise, funding our 
> > projects would be a way to fund a commercial activity without being 
> > taxed."
> >
> >
> > You can also have a look at
> > http://community.apache.org/projectIndependence :
> >
> >
> > "
> >
> >
> >     Apache projects are managed independently
> >
> > Apache projects must be managed independently, and PMCs must ensure 
> > that they are acting in the best interests of the project as a 
> > whole. Note that it is similarly important that the PMC clearly show 
> > this independence within their project community. The perception of 
> > existing and new participants within the community that the PMC is 
> > run independently and without favoring any specific third parties 
> > over others is important, to allow new contributors to feel 
> > comfortable both joining the community and contributing their work. 
> > A community that obviously favors one specific vendor in some 
> > exclusive way will often discourage new contributors from competing 
> > vendors, which is an issue for the long term health of the project.
> >
> > "
> >
> >
> > I would suggest you rework this page to order the company using an 
> > alphabetical order, not mentionning the fact taht some committers 
> > belong to those companies.
> >
> > I'm not sure that grouping companies by country is the right thing 
> > to do, as some of them might provide support in many countries. One 
> > option would be to add the list of countries a company provides 
> > support in on the same line.
> >
> > A disclaimer at the top of the page may also be added, informing 
> > users that neither Apache nor the project endorse any company. You 
> > can have a look at other project's page :
> >
> > http://cxf.apache.org/commercial-cxf-offerings.html
> >
> > http://directory.apache.org/commercial-support.html
> >
> >
> > Thanks !
> >
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> >
> >
> 

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